Trips going bad

I haven't yet exerienced psychedelics..I know that ya can't overdose on acid, I know that everyone comes out of their trip and that it can last up to 12 hours and that it wont last forever, and i know that acid can magnify the thoughts and fears in your head. If i know these things that trigger bad trips can't i be sure i won't have one? And that if i'm paranoid i can calm myself down by knowing that its all in my head? basically, how can people have such terrible trips if they've researched acid and they know what can happen and that its all in the head? It's not like you forget all these things while tripping right?
Thanks for reading

 

well in explain how one of mine turned bad. an example is easier than tryin to explain to you.

but me and my 3 friends had dosed at my friends house at about 5pm.
we were having a great time, and we went for an hour long walk to the 7/11 to get some lollies. we come back and there was numerious other people at the house who we had no idea who they were. it was ok at first. but i found it imposible to incorporate myself into what was happening. things turned bad for all of us. and worst my friend had to be taken away by this natropath and was massaged and stuff, and he is now a compeltly differnt person and in fact has run away to another city, sold all his stuff, wants to leave everything behind and start again, doesnt drink, or smoke or nothing anymore. had a massive effect on him. he thought he was gonna die and was like "just call the ambulance now". so wasnt just overwhelming but terribly horrific.

just an example of how we went from so happy and enjoying ourselves, to terrible.
i was lying behind the couch and on the floor, couldnt even talk to people, and they were asking what was wrong and shit. whilst mine was overwhelming and unpleasant i wouldnt call it a bad trip. as apposed to my friends who thought he was gonna die and shit, thus the massive impact it has had on him.

 

Wow..see that's my only fear of doing it. I'd say before you do it be absolutely sure that nothing unexpected can happen. It seems that the atmosphere is 90% of it. So, by making the atmosphere as peaceful and enjoyful as possible, nothing too bad could really happen.

 

I went to a music festival on some really kick ass acid and just started freakin out...It was awesome lol.

 

I agree that atmoshpere has lot to do with the course of trip, but not just that. There are plenty of people who were in the perfect surrounding and with people they love and trust, but yet again had a bad trip. That is because acid is showing you on this or that way where you are stuck with your personality, it pulls out some things that you are not even aware that they happened to you and had huge effect on forming your personality. It can even pull out some fears that you have because of something that happened to your mother while you were still in her stomak. Also, there are plenty of people having complexes and they are not aware of them or they don't want to admit to themself, acid will put that in front of their noses for sure. In another words, on acid YOU JUST CAN NOT LIE TO YOURSELF, and if you are doing it, it will come back as hell to you and you have to face with it if you want to continue to use acid, or you just stop using it any more. That is why plenty, if not all acid users will tell you that acid help them to become better persons. On the other way, if you are 100% (not 99.9, it must be 100%) honest to yourself, and have 100% self confidence, that will make you soooooo mentaly stable that not atmosphere or anybody or anything can actually fuck up your trip. But when you are trying acid for the first time, you never know what is hidden somewhere deep in your mind, and that is why everybody is recomending to have a first trip with somebody who is already expirienced tripper. After first few times, you will know if there is something that bothers you or not, and than you can go deeper in yourself on your own. Also, when you are increasing after some time your dose drastically (not needed if you are increasing little by little) you should trip with expirienced tripper (YOU DON'T NEED SITTER).

Hope this helped.

Love you all!!

swooosh, if you read this, maybe another thing witch can be added to LSD Faq.

 

Couldn't agree more with Shapeshifter!!!

 

Uhh... you actually CAN overdose on acid. Not like cocaine or heroin, but it is possible. Be careful.

 

A bad trip for a strong minded person (and trust me we've
all had our moments no matter how seasoned) is more or
less involved with lying down in pain while non stop images
convulse and distort in your field of inner vision, typically
during the inital 2-3 hours of a mushroom trip. I've never
had even an incomfortable moment on LSD so I cant help
you there, but more than likely its personal ego issues.
I guess thats why I respect mushrooms so highly, for the
mental ass kicking lol. Respect Mother Nature or get ready
to die

 

Actually I did take acid one time when I started getting
symptoms of a stomach virus during the trip (lol thought
I was a gonner) but I realized that other people I knew
were sick so I put two and two together and just dealt
with a beat trip. Though my insight as to how the body
naturally combats diseases is now magnified by a billion
or so

 

I have seen people who seemed to have completely forgotten that they ever took acid, which is a very scary thing indeed... but, those are people who clearly got in over their heads (big doses). It's not so much that you don't know that "it's only a drug," it's that a bad trip is all about your perceptions... and your perceptions are shifting all of the time even when you're sober. You know how sometimes you think your friends are cool, and sometimes they seem kind of lame? Well, imagine if everything started seeming really lame. hahaha That is kind of what a bad trip is like, at least for me. I think about all of the problems with my family, my friends, myself... the fact that I don't know what the future holds, the fact that I will die. And it's all true stuff... that is why it is so difficult, because the drug is only magnifying very real fears. But, it's good to work with these fears, in moderation. It can get really bad if they become overwhelming, but, you will almost certainly get through it and be a better person for it. But, like many people, myself included, you are making the mistake of thinking a lot about preventing a bad trip before you trip. There really is no reason why you should fear a bad trip. If you are a generally happy person who has love in his life and passions and hobbies and beliefs and goals, there is no reason to expect anything but an amazingly beautiful experience.

 

it is not that simple. and saying its all in the head might seem like an easy way to be ok with what happens right now but when you are experiencing it for real you might not be able to deny what is happening. what ever happens will happen to your perception of reality. your perception of reality is all you have so whatever happens will be very real at the time. so very difficult to put into words.

doing research should be all that one needs. unfortunately there is so much miss information that it becomes difficult to know for sure what you are getting into. even when you find good information it is still very easy for someone to confuse, misinterpret, or not get the whole picture.

if things get difficult dont see it as a trip gone bad. i have had many difficult trips that most people would have considered bad. i have had some very freaky trips but i got though them. usually i understood either during or after the trip what i had to do to avoid these difficult trips in the future.

now a days, because of my experience i rarely have a difficult trip. i know what kind of set and setting i need for a good trip. i know where and when to trip and i know who to trip with in order to have an enjoyable experience.

when i first started tripping it was hit and miss. i was unsure of my self and my surroundings and i tripped in and around bad set and setting over and over again until i figured it out. mostly it had to do with the people that i was tripping with and around. when i found people that i was more compatible with my experiences got better.

 

Thanks man, you're the man.

 

He's actually an alien, but shh dont tell anyone :tongue:

 

hahaha. Autentique is right; I am not entirely human! But, I still appreciate the comment, Mas

 

I tried.... and I can't hahahaha
The only fucked up feeling is - MOOORE!!!
hahaha

 

id often get the feeling while on acid, of so much happyness, that id think that ok, now nothing can go bad. and you then get "slack" with your thoughts, and what your doing, and those thoughts can turn bad very quickly, from soo happy, to very scary. just like that. back and forth over and over. within minits.

 

i've had one bad trip before i quite understood how to handle trips and what exactly a trip was, but usually i'm excellent at controlling myself, it's almost like psychedelics just make you super-logical, at least in my case. I've never been so clear minded before and when I trip it's just like how i usually am except a lot lot more deeper, and i'm generally a deep and open minded guy. LSD can have it's times though, and hey i've tripped on the worst moods and ended up turning around being happy in the end and just seeing the best of whatever mood i happened to be in. Just try to find it in you to tell yourself to just relax and that you have absolutely nothing to worry about, then you can just nod yourself away and get lost in your subconscious.

 

I can't even grasp the concept of a bad trip, I've tripped dozens of times with various people and on my own, I haven't come close to a bad trip. I've thought of questionable subjects, but I've still maintained control of myself, my composure and ultimately my trip.

I don't want to sound like I'm bragging, as I'm not. If you are ready to trip, you'll be ready to control your actions.

Perhaps you guys are speaking of higher doses, the most I've taken is 3, and that lead to one hell of a good jam last time.

 

Ha man, all the power to you.

 

i remember thinking the exact same thing as the OP before i tried acid. but its nothing like one can grasp from just researching. you cant research an actual sensation or mind-state, you can only read -about- it.

bad trips arent necessarily caused by forgetting that the wierd things youre seeing are caused by a drug. and its not like you get a bad feeling and you still have a part of your head that is stable that can say 'its ok im on acid, these thoughts are just caused by a drug', it wouldnt matter that they were caused by a drug anyway, its the actual QUALITY of the experience that is bad, not what you think is ACTUALLY going on.

that -can- be the case for various people but its not inherent in 'bad trip'

for example, my bad trip was bad -because- of the fact that i thought about the extent that the drug was impacting my perception to the point that i was afraid that i was not interpreting reality properly enough for my liking. i thought that certain actual things happening were in my head. i didnt seem to get any straight answers whenever i asked people things or asked what was going on - but that was because actually barely anything was going on but i thought i just was picking up on a totally different, removed reality. and it really freaked me out for some time.