another is it legal? question

You bet I do

People shouldnt be free to go nude only if the "majority" of the population agree its okay, they should be able to go nude because its their right and theyre entitled to it, the facts are what matters not weither the majority agrees or not. Theres lot of stuff that has been legalized that the majority didnt necessarily agree on but the facts won out anyways. We werent meant to be a majority rule society.

Thats because they simply dont come up with enough evidence to back up their claims and theyre mostly all bark and no bite so they dont get anywhere with that. Just saying pot makes you feel good isnt gonna get it legalized.

The kind of nudity we want legalized doesnt have any sexual connotations behind it either, thats why its called non-sexual nudity, obviously if someone is going nude in public for sexual reasons then it should be illegal and legal action should be taken but that would be true even if they were clothed did something sexual in public. Theres no reason why someone walking nude down the street minding their own business should get arrested just because some bible thumper gets offended because that person going nude is against "their" religion. I really dont like other people imposing their religions views on others who dont share the same religion or viewpoints. If ya dont think nudity is right stay clothed but dont hassle other people because they chose to do it, its their body its their choice, simple as that.

Problem is that wouldnt change anything HERE and this country would stay as screwed up as it is now and I want our children and their children to be able to grow up in a world they feel they can go nude freely in without shame. If nudists move somewhere else that wont be accomplished. Besides if we dont protect what is ours this culture's habits have a nasty tendency to move other places so eventually our problem here could become their problem unless we ensure that people's rights are protected.

 

I don't understand, how it's possible, that you don't understand why so many people don't understand nudity of others (I know that's kind of a complicated way to say it, sorry). You have so many good ideas, and are capable of bringing up excellent arguments... how is it that you can't wrap your mind around the thought process of those that disagree with you?

Your arguments sound fine to me, because I don't give a shit if someone is naked. But your arguments aren't really that effective for someone who is completely against nudism and all its forms. Which is like, the main problem in getting it accepted across the country, man.

 

I understand how people who dislike nudity think about such things and depending on who im talking to I can come up with some pretty good arguements, it just depends on who im talking to and what their particular views on the subject are. I just think alot of people are misinformed and brainwashed about nudity, they dont know the truth about it and they areint willing to try to hear us out and try to accept what we're trying to do. I think if they would just listen and hear us out theyd understand.

If I were talking to someone else that had different views on nudity I would change my arguements to suit whatever viewpoint and arguements they had.

 

In case I missed it, somewhere in this thread, please tell me, NudistMike07, what is it that you ARE trying to do ? Back to the Garden of Eden ( like, before original sin ) ? I do have opinions on this subject, but, for now, I'll keep them close to my vest, so, maybe, just maybe, you'll answer, based on your own, heartfelt, and passionate opinions, NOT based on what you think, I think. It shouldn't be hard for a nudist to show some balls.

 

What is it you want me to do? I do what I can. I just want people to understand and accept nudists as part of normal society and give us the same respect and status as anyone else. I would go nude in public if it was legal, but mostly I just want others to have the right to do so if they wish.

I just dont like the religious right imposing their own values/beleifs on people who might not share them by expecting us to wear clothes. I also think that we shouldnt be punished by their God for mistakes that Adam/Eve made, we shouldve been given the same choice they got, everybody is unique so theres no way to know we'd make the same decision. I really dont like how they use fear to get what they want, its like we either wear their clothes and follow their god or we burn in hell and then they act like we got a choice, not much of a choice from where im standing.

 

Thanks, Mike, I just wondered where you were coming from. I'm not religious, either, I just used the Garden of Eden scenario to see if you meant total public nudity, if desired. What you're talking about would take, I think, another 2007 years to undo, which would be spent in the "hallowed halls of justice". And, like you said about pot legislation, you'd better have a better arguement than "nudity feels good", or, "It's my right", to enact change. Fight the good fight, and good luck !

 

Well I think full public nudity can be acheived by making sure that partial nudity (topless for women and just thongs for men) is accepted most places and then working up to the full nudity. If people can accept others in just shorts or thongs then certainly they could accept them fully nude. I think if you get them gradually accustomed to it then it wont be such a shock when you try to get it legalized. I dont intend to justify nudity being legalized by just saying it feels good or is my right, I would just use the facts and show people theres nothing wrong with it. I think pot can be legalized the same way.

 

where i live, theres a suburb that wont let you mow your own lawn without a shirt on.

 

Wonder how they enforce that considering your lawn is private property and going shirtless is not illegal. Bet those people have a fun time in court.

 

i got a warning riding throgugh there on my bike with no shirt on. i guess they walk up and give you a ticket. they go on the premise that if you can see it frm public, its in public. ive seen it on COPS before where theyve told people to get rid of their beer or go inside cuz they can see them drinkin it from the sidewalk.

 

I guess they think people got a right to see things they dont wanna see and then they try to say its a free country. Part of being a free country is people being able to do things that others might not particularly like seeing but they still got a right to do it anyways. Guys shouldnt have to shirt up just because some prudes dont like what they see.

 

Being nude, in public, is neither fun, expressive, or, even practical, in a lot of cases. You're busy arguing a non-issue. Quit wasting your time and energy on something so pathetically lame, and do something constructive with your arguementative self. There are quite a few larger issues at hand, just open a fucking newspaper !

 

uhhh, this is the BARE IT forum, meaning BARE = naked or nearly naked. there are other forums for other topics. if you don't like the topic, discourse then don't read it but don't come in here preaching.

 

you obviously never tried it.

 

thank u txbarefooter... sometime i wonder y these ppl come to these forums anyway, its seems like they just want to argue.

 

Argue ? You mean, like you and NudistMike ? I just think it's a self-indulgent non-issue. But, neither of you muster a good arguement as to why it's so important for you to be nude in public.

 

by argue, they mean ...

have you gone into other forums (love and sex, marijuana, movies, music ... etc) and told them that they shouldn't be "wasting your time and energy on something so pathetically lame" as the topic of that forum and read a fucking newspaper ?

if you have a topic that you feel strongly about, go to that forum and post it but don't come in here and tell us we're wasting our time. and seeing you have 8 posts, I'm starting to believe you're a troll.

 

I would like it's already to be nude in your own back yard (as long as no one else can see you). Then again, if no one can see you, who is going to say anything about you being nude in public?

Of course, there are laws against 'public' nudity but there are no laws against being nude in your home.

 

Well folks if you want to live nude, live and and work at a nudist resort as I now do. As for this being a free country, it is, your free to live as you are told too. That is America's freedom.O and I no longer live in NH, such a backwards state that it is. As for being nude on your own property, facts are, if you can possibly be seen by the public, DONT DO IT!!!!!!!!!

 

no, you can't even be naked in a window of your home so that you're visible to the outside. once about a year ago, i was in the bathroom after taking a shit and was wiping my ass but i forgot to shut the blinds. well the guy nextdoor was outside having a cookout or something with his family and saw my ass in the window and he starting screaming and threatening me and shit and he called the cops. soon after that, a cop was at my door questioning me a bout sticking my ass in the window to moon the guys family lmfao i didn't get in any trouble tho because it was an accident but just keep that in mind. that was just for being in a window..i can't imagine actually going outside naked lol