Boycott Dateline

Discussion in 'Boycott' started by Newdbare, Oct 27, 2007.

  1. Newdbare

    Newdbare Member

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    Boycott Dateline and Chris Hanson as he believes in entrapment and is a scumbag.

    I have been in the civil rights movement for 63 years and I believe in total civil rights for everyone every where. Civil rights is everyone's job.

    If one person looses their civil rights, we all loose our civil rights.

    I am a life member of the NAACP, NOW, Cinco De Mayo, Gay Liberation Front and several others.
     
  2. nodirectionhome

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    Do you think it's wrong to try to catch pedophiles, or do you just disagree with the way he's doing it?

    I think he's a scumbag for pretending to be a cop and for putting that shit on TV, but I don't see how law enforcement officials are denying anyone their civil rights by arresting them for commiting crimes.
     
  3. Roct

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    Yeah, I can see why you don't like him. [​IMG]
     
  4. Mitok

    Mitok Senior Member

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    I still don't get why you say to boycott dateline.

    Pro-pedo rights?

    I believe pedophelia is only wrong if the child in question is pre-pubescent.
     
  5. underground04

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    well if theyre adolecent, its ephebophilia, which i also am not against
    but yeah, if you're into little kids, seek help or get ready for some surprise buttsecks!
     
  6. nextGENERATIONhippie

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    those pedos have not lost their civil rights. They iniated a chat with someone who told them thwy were 14 and thwy decided to go to the house. Its not entrapment at all.
     
  7. underground04

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    what's so wrong with banging a 14 year old? *evil grin*
    okay, granted, these guys are in their thirties and stuff which is a bit on the sleazy side. but its not like they're holding down a 10 year old and raping her or something
     
  8. nodirectionhome

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    A 30+ year old man having sex with a 14 year old IS wrong - it's called statutory rape. And it's not "a bit" sleazy, it's INCREDIBLY sleazy, not to mention immoral.
     
  9. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    Oh that's a shame. You were just gaining some credibility and you shot yourself in the foot...
     
  10. Chris Jury

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    Ha, if you don't understand what's wrong with having sex with a 14 year old, I can't help you much. Below the age of about 16 though, no one is really emotionally or mentally equipped to be able to deal with a sexual relationship. 14 year olds shouldn't be having sex with anyone--a 30 year old pervert or otherwise.
     
  11. eclipse25

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    From my understanding the average age to loose virginity is around 15. Age of concent is 14 in Hawaii and 16-18 in all other states in my country. I don't see how age of consent laws have kept minors from sleeping with adults though... They do it all the time. Mostly teens with older teens or lower 20's. It's well known. It discusts me to think of a 40 year old hitting on a 13yo but eh...

    My real beef is that accusing someone of being a pedophile is all it takes to strip them of all their rights. That doesn't seem right. If it seems right to you then im accusing you of being a pedophile. I think this is where the aclu gets lambasted by the right wing, for saying people deserve a fair trial when accused of a crime. Conservatives have never believed in a fair trial. I grew up in the south so I know they never have. You get accused of having marijuana, being a terrorist or being a pedophile and they treat you like scum. Look what they did to Tommy Chong for selling a pipe with a weed leaf on it...
     
  12. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    First, Tommy Chong admits the business was being run by his son, they only used his name on the storefront, and he took the rap to protect his wife and kids from jailtime. That was his choice, not the government's offer. Read his book, get the facts.

    Second, "fair trial" or not, get the law changed or don't break it unless you want to do time. When you have children of your own you'll probably see things differently. Unless you're OK with your 14 year old son or daughter having sex with one of your peers, in which case you have major issues.

    Third, it's wrong to label these people pedophiles and persecute them without proof, and in many cases there is little beyond one person's word. They're child sexual predators, they pursue children for their own gratification. It's a fine line between picking up a 14 year old girl on the internet and picking up a 10 year old girl on the internet, but one is still sex with a minor and the other is still child sexual abuse. That's why the latter carries a much stiffer penalty.

    Finally, to the OP, what does being gay have to do with pedophilia? Let me answer: Absolutely nothing.
     
  13. NatureBoy93

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    then "shes a witch! burn her!"

    now "she has with minors! burn her!"
     
  14. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    That was brilliant.
     
  15. IdentityCrisis

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    Actually, I'm torn on this. Yes, trying to seduce a minor into having sex when there is no safety net for them and no escape is wrong; however, these individuals were chatting with adults, not children. Basically, the crime didn't exist until Dateline's "faux minors" pretended to be children. No one can say that the suspect was definitely going to try to seduce a minor. Maybe he/she would have logged off given a few more minutes. Not likely, but it can't be proven otherwise.

    Another point I've noticed on the show is that these "minors" are awefully inviting. They don't play naive children, or ignorant minors. They play minors with strong and precise sexual intentions. They seem experienced and sophisticated in their knowledge of sex. Point blank: they don't seem like children.

    In my mind, yes, it's wrong to lure minors into sexual traps; however, Dateline's "To Catch A Predator" is not catching predators. It is creating them.
     
  16. eclipse25

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    Ok then im calling you a pedophile. You raped my little brother and he is traumatized for life. You dont get a trial you go strait to death.
     
  17. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    That was brilliant too.
     
  18. IdentityCrisis

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    What are you talking about for one?

    For two, it's "Straight" unless the person goes along an oceanic "strait" to hell.
     
  19. Chris Jury

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    No, no, no, these guys are not just chatting with a person that they believe is a 14 year old. First they chat with the teen, but then they set up a time to go over to the teen's home for the purpose of having sex with that teen. There is no ambiguity about their intentions. They detail very explicitly that they wish to have sex with the minor and plan to at the meeting. They then show up to do just that. There is very little gray area here. That's about as plain as it gets.

    The typists communicating with these perverts are adults yes, but they are good at mimicing the speech patterns of a 14 year old. Trust me, if you were asked to pick out the speech of one of these officers from that of several actual 14 year olds, you'd fail miserably, as would any person. They are not being overly seductive or anything of the sort. Typically it is these perverts that bring up the topic of sex within a few minutes! But even if that were the case, it doesn't matter in the least--as far as these guys know they are talking with a 14 year old child, not an adult. I don't care if a 14 year old runs over naked and flops onto their laps, they don't have the right to touch them in a sexual manner. Granted, this might not be easy in the real world (although when has that ever happened? ;) ), but no one ever said life is easy. There are lots of things are are difficult to do that we all do every day because we have to. Not commiting statutory rape is really one of those "have to" kinds of things.

    This show absolutely is NOT creating predators, it absolutely catching the ones that are already there. If I talk with a person online and find out they are a minor right off the bat (very hypothetical because I don't really chat with people online, and I absolutely see no reason to chat with a minor) I certainly would not bring up sex or make plans to go to their house and have sex with them...I mean, c'mon now. Any normal person would not think of such a thing. Only those individuals that disregard the well-being of people around them could engage in such activity. Government exists to protect citizens from other citizens, and that's exactly what they're doing here.

    Chris
     
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