National Identity

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by razy, Oct 25, 2007.

  1. razy

    razy Fazed and Contused

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    I am English, but I also consider myself British, and sometimes I say I'm from the UK, as I refer to in my profile for the benefit of people from other countries.

    However, I get the impression that it's a different story for the Welsh and Scottish (and maybe the Northern Irish, I don't know), and that they consider themselves Welsh or Scottish before thinking of themselves as British, if at all. Is this true for you? Does the fact that the English invaded Wales and Scotland to form the Union have anything to do with this?

    And then there's the Cornish as well of course...
     
  2. IlUvMuSIc

    IlUvMuSIc Senior Member

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    i dont know any scottish people :(
     
  3. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    I consider myself British not English, and only that because it's an arbitrary legal definition forced upon me by accident of birth. England does not actually exist as a nation state, so it's impossible for me to be "English"...
     
  4. IlUvMuSIc

    IlUvMuSIc Senior Member

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    Well im a brit. But im not english...
     
  5. starchild618

    starchild618 get lost

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    Whats the difference?
     
  6. razy

    razy Fazed and Contused

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    Britain includes Scotland and Wales.
     
  7. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    I really dont think any of those words actually mean anything
     
  8. IlUvMuSIc

    IlUvMuSIc Senior Member

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    LOL ^ i would never call myself english but i would call myself British...

    Besides i thought English was the country youre from and British is nationality.
     
  9. razy

    razy Fazed and Contused

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    Well you would say that wouldn't you, froggie? ;)

    Not that it makes much odds, but when I've been to the States and had to fill out a green immigration card, I was told to put country of origin/birth as UK and not England.
     
  10. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    What?
    Surely Britain would be more appropriate than just the U.K?
     
  11. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    The full title is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", UK is the shortened version and "British Citizen" describes what you are if you're from the UK...
     
  12. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Great Britain consists of England, Scotland and Wales; it makes up the largest part of the British Isles.

    The British Isles consist of those three, and also Ireland (being Northern and republic).

    The United Kingdom consists of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

    I always consider myself Welsh, and never as British as it's too vague. I believe Scotland, Ireland and Wales don't usually refer to themselves as Britons due to the fact that many consider England to have stolen their Celtic identity, and to regard themselves as a seperate nationality distinguishes them from Anglo-Saxon's. Also, the long history between the Celts and Saxons doesn't help. The English have treated the Celtic countries badly throughout history, and the grudge still exists.
     
  13. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    :p
     
  14. ripple

    ripple Member

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    On any forms I have to fill in I always write my nationality as Scottish.
     
  15. Hippie_Girl

    Hippie_Girl Innit!

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    I say that I'm from Britain, although I also say I am Welsh. I think I say Britain first - especially when I was in the US - as most people can grasp that. I feel it important to keep the Welshness alive which is why I speak the language whenever I can as not to loose it.
     
  16. phoenix_indigo

    phoenix_indigo dreadfully real

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    I tell people I'm British, but no one believes me. :(
     
  17. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    It's hard to be "just English" nowadays.
     
  18. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    I am officially welsh. I was born in Wales Bridgend central hospital. What a day that was.


    I am not English. I am a welshman. Unfortunately Wales has adopted the English language in the south. Only up north are there more welsh speakers.
     
  19. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    I love Wales :)
     
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