FDA approved homeopathic uses of salvia

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by Egor, Oct 18, 2007.

  1. Egor

    Egor Member

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    I friend from wisconsin recently forwarded this piece of legislation to me(knowing my fondness for the sage)>
    http://www.legis.state.wi.us/2007/data/AB-477.pdf
    and it was pretty much what I was expecting to see, save for 1 clause about the FDA approved, non-prescription uses. I have been looking around and can find very little info on the subject. The bill says that salvia will still be available from retail stores without an Rx!! Anyone care to elaborate on this a bit????
     
  2. runy21

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    the way i see it it says that some forms of salvinorin A are or will be approved by the FDA for homeopathic uses, and as thus will be available for purchase over the counter.
     
  3. Egor

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    I was hoping for someone who knows of the potential uses, I cant find shit on the topic
     
  4. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    But Salvinorin A is so potent, how is it possible to sell it in dosages small enough to avoid the psychedelic experience? Or is that the point? I don't know what they mean by homeopathic.
     
  5. Egor

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    ^^thats exactly the kind of thing I am trying to find out
     
  6. taylord

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    idk how old this is but i live in wisconsin and when i buy salvia it says on all the packs not intended for human ingestion only a insence so i think they can get around it by selling it as insence.the hippy i buy it from says now this isnt intended to smoke and then like smiles and laughs haha
     
  7. Witchdr11

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    Salvia is used by the Mazatec for divining, healing, constipation or dihherea, and distended bowels.

    Modern pharmacologists are studying it's active principal as use as anesthetics, pain killers (analgesics), anti-addictive uses, and as an antidepressant. In my opionion its probably not going to be very good at any of these, but that's not the point.

    Salvinorins are unique diterpenes which may have derivatives that could be made from it. These chemicals could perhaps reduce or eliminate the mind-altering characteristics while retaining the medical properties that are useful. Sceduling of S. Divinorum will make it much more difficult for researchers to work with the plant because of the liscences required and FDA sourcing of the products used for research.

    Medical marijuana is now facing these hurdles. People who apply to work with cannabis often face professinal criticsm or ostricism. Beyond this, those who get the required permissions must get their cannabis from FDA sources, who may not be in a hurry to give it up. The quality is often less than what could be obtained through other sources, and limiting the stock that can be researched limits research in general. Many cannabinoids exist in the plant, in many different amounts strain to strain and plant to plant.

    Anyway, as far as usefulness medically, the jury is still out. For now its terrific for divining, meditation, and generally scaring the bejesus out of yourself on occasion. It might cure your headache for a few minutes, or give you one. If it does cure your headache, you probably could have just taken some Aleeve instead.

    One promising direct use is as treatment for cocaine addiction. If you were zooted on coke all night and smoked some salvia, the cocaine would stop acting to increase dopamine levels due to the increase of dynorphin mimicing Salvinorin-A and immediately produce withdrawl symptoms. Hmm, why aren't we REALLY looking at this possibility...America's cities are chock full of addicts who would love to find a way out.

    Its effectivness as an anti-depressant is a tough sell for me, at least on the pharmacological level, as Salvinin-A mimics dynorphin and other Kappa Opoid agonists. All are known to decrease dopamine levels and show "depressive-like" symptoms in rats. But, you are not a rat, and our unique and complex nervous systems may benefit in someway from the experience that causes the slight dopamine decrease to be irrelavant, perhaps overshadowed by the awe and enlightenment that we may take away from salvia use.

    Happy Trails,
    Witchdoctor
     
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