What is GOD anyway?

Yeah, honey....maybe learn how to spell existence and we all might listen a little closer.

 

Some of you who are posting on this site/thread today will eventually become great thinkers and will actually do something that will one day benefit the human race as we know it....however, many of you will not.

And this is not entirely related to a belief in God.

I personally have a solid faith in and love of God that has resided in me for over 30 years now, however I have witnessed many people of very different backgrounds accomplish many wondrous things. Some of them religious (Christian, Jewish, Islam, Hindu, Buddhist, etc) and some of them agnostic and some of them atheist.

Regardless of where you consider yourself to fall between those "cracks".....never stop questioning and never stop honestly and wholeheartedly trying to be the best person that you possibly can. And this means at any given moment!

Be kind and be mannerly and be honest; and also to strangers (not just to the people that you love) .....take the miniscule amount of time required to smile, to nod, to say, "How are you doing?" or "Have a great day," .......and I promise you, if you do this with any amount of sincerity, you will derive a great deal of pleasure from it.

(I realise this a little off-subject from the religious discussion, but I am just a vessel and it's very much like automatic writing for me at times.)

As for God, well...He is all around. He permeates everything, every creature and thing and situation that surrounds us; but not only that.......He is a full part of every space; every empty part that seemingly divides any division.

God is comprehensive. It/He/She is WHOLE.

So when we try to invision ourselves thinking in terms of linear time and space (i.e. "I loved that Halloween party down in the Keys last year, but I think this year I'll stay closer to home, ") This is a very normal thought and decision process. It has a time limit and is perfectly indicitave of a more stable and well-rounded personality.

The truth of the matter is that modern science can not prove or disprove anything in regards to a higher being at this point / it only reports what it knows and what it knows is only the little tip of the TIP of the finger of what actually exists.

 

god is a force outside of logic, outside of math, reality as it is known, experimentation, the construct that is human comprehension, or comprehendability, because he built it like a dollhouse, from the outside.

 

You are incorrect my friend. Awaken your Kundalini and allow Her to access Sahasrara Cakra and you will meet God eye to eye. And you better be ready too. Your personality is a mask on the face of the immanent divine.

 

God is Dog spelled backwards.

 

My Kundalini is having a lazy spell and won't wake up, so Her Sahasrara Cakra took off without Her. Is there some other way to see God eye to eye, or is toe to toe good enough?

What a profound observation! I guess you never heard the ancient joke about the dyslexic who stays awake all night wondering "Is there a Dog?"

 

just because you can't comprehend it, doesn't mean you can't see it.

there is a reasons some answers are written pi instead of

3.14159etc.

 

Think what you wish of God. God has your being whether you have awareness of His existence or not. But know that God is not an entity sitting out there some where with a bundle of lightning bolts ready to sling out, God is consciousness, a consciousness that underlies the manifestation of reality. It is not a question of where is God, the question is where is there not. God is the being of existence, a phenomenon called sat-cit-ananda, and is manfesting your mind and experience of personality as you read this. Thing is, your ego filter is on full tilt, thus you think you are you. Enjoy.
The acclaimed status of temporariness of ego finite self always leads to termination.
But the divine consciousness that underlies your being and your transition of self will carry on, with or without your finite identity.

 

If god had lightning he'd be much cooler. As far as I can tell he does and is jack shit.

 

What I don't get is why people think we're impressed by these oriental names like 'sat-cit-ananda'. I'm sorry, but I don't speak Thai, or whatever it is and the English translation 'God is the being of existence' is more useful to me and probably to most other people on here. Does the fact that another person from a different country already acknowledged this concept and coined a phrase for it make it any more believable or persuasive? Seeking credibility for yourself from others is lame and egocentric. Why do I need to shave my head bald and walk around in sandals just cos I'm seeking the truth. It's all bullshit. Go live in Thailand and you'll discover that people there are just as stupid as anywhere else.

Also, I might understand 'Kundalini' better if I knew what it meant in English. Do you want people to understand or just want them to think you're really mysterious?

 

Sat Chit Ananda is a term that has origins in
India, and its meaning does not have a match
in the English language. The words do, sure,
but the meaning is not the same. The depth
behind the words are not simple pictures painted
in the mind of the receiver, it goes far beyond
mental comprehension.
Kundalini also has no exact English translation,
as it is not even physically proven/accepted
by modern physiologists. Kundalini is the
aspect of God that descends through the chakras
of the body in order to create your physical
perception of reality, and it ascends back
to the crown of the astral 'doors' that run
along the spine. This energy that comes in
through the back of the head, descends the spine
and if yoga is practiced properly, ascends
back up and goes either into the crown or
out of the 3rd eye, is called by many names,
some being kriya, kundalini, prana, etc.
And its source is the universal conciousness,
of which we are tuned into but dont know it
because we only have half of the connection
established, thus yoga was designated to
run us back to the source of our conciousness,
our reality, our everything. The taoists
call it chi, the hindus call it by the names
I listed, in English I guess we could refer
to it as life-force, or life-energy. It is
real, but no everyone has the ability to perceive
it, control it, and manifest it properly.

 

Snakeyes, why do you think people using words that you are unfamiliar with is an attempt to try and impress you? Brother that really isn't the case, I assure you.
The term Sat-Cit-Ananda (Being-Consciousness-Bliss) is indicative of Immanent Non-Dual Consciousness. They are qualities of the Divine, rather than a name. And the Kundalini is the aspect of this Immanent Consciousness which condenses itself, becoming the individual identity in all beings. This is why throughout antiquity she has been called the Mother. Her awakening was the original intention for the ancient Tantric science of Yoga. Awakening the Mother Kundalini begins the trek back into the Source. Sat-Cit-Ananda.
And these terms are not Thai, they are Sanskrit terms denoting qualities, processes, and aspects of Consciousness that are instrumental in the second to second manifestation of all Reality.

 

SatChitAnanda is a Sanskrit term. Sanskrit is the language of ancient India. Sanskrit contains many names for spiritual realities, most of which, like Karma, Dharma, Satyagraha and so on, have no direct, single-word translation into English.

Regardless of whether one speaks Sanskrit, English, or neither, the meaning of any concept conveyed through Sanskrit is easily available to anyone who can simultaneously understand multiple truths as well as all of the connections between multiple truths. Easy, Yes?

The literal English translation of SatChitAnanda is Being/Consciousness/Bliss.

Sat = being, existence
Chit = consciousness
Ananda = bliss, happiness, ecstacy

It is presented traditionally as both an expression of the divine and a meditation (or, a way to understand) on the nature of the divine.

Peace and Love

 

god is someone who slaps your face when you diss is artwork

 

Thanks Guys, well I feel a little more educated now. What I am concerned about is how, in religions, unfamiliar names and concepts are taught as truths to successive generations, who accept them without really understanding the meaning behind them and this is why all the major religions are corrupt. To see supposedly enlightened individuals such as yourselves perpetuating this practice saddens me. I know the terms: being, existence, consciousness, bliss, happiness and ecstacy and their spiritual context. Why do I need to call them by their indian names? It can only create confusion. Isn't this why we have so many people trying to kill each other? because they have different names for the same God?

I don't like the way these spiritual systems are taught as actual physical realities, eg.

'....descends through the chakras of the body in order to create your physical
perception of reality, and it ascends back to the crown of the astral 'doors' that run
along the spine. This energy that comes in through the back of the head, descends the spine and if yoga is practiced properly, ascends back up and goes either into the crown or out of the 3rd eye,'.

Is this a joke? perhaps not, but surely, this is just one person's imagination, or visualisation of abstract and invisible concepts, rather than an observation of how they actually interact with the human body in physical terms. The problem is that people like you seem to believe that this kind of thing is a description of actual physical processes and when you pass this on to others, the real metaphysical and metaphorical meaning is lost.

 

First of all my friend, you are being culturalcentric. The simple fact is that all of this enlightenment and spiritual consciousness stuff came from India, and its basis all lies in the actual experiences of fantatstic consciousness transformation that can be the result of the Yoga practices. When all of us westerners are wiped out because of our lifestyle of desire and consumerism with our fancy machines that wil change the face of this planet, these men and women, however few there are will still be relishing in the very valid subjective experience of living one with Gods mind.
You seem to speak from an externalized position of being totally unfamiliar with the long since established stance of the realities of these sacred spirtitual domains.
Oh, and by the way, this stuff has nothing at all whatsoever to do with religion. Religion comes as a result of cognition and mental veiwing, belief structures, this makes dogma.
What we are talking about here instead is consciousness. Genuine and very real experiences of consciousness transformation. And as far as the cakras go, these things constitute your very erxperience of self a you read this. If and when you were to experience them, you would be blown out to see just how much of a joke they are not.
Yogins such as myself are far removed from any religious ego maniacs who seek to impose their finite views of what they deem to be God on others. My shake is simply this, you want to know the total "absolute truth of divine reality" as a state of consciousness, you "practice" the yoga tantra sadhana. It is not about believing anything. Thought, belief, are distinct obstacles in this stratagem. You do the yoga, awaken the Kundalini which is very real, and bingo, you get to face a reality you are in denial of, it seems. I have written thoroughly of my experiences, have college degrees, am a Dad, and a Tantric teacher. I speak from a realm of specific and valid objective and subjective experience.
Yogin Bhairava Atmabhoda Sarasvati

 

'The simple fact is that all of this enlightenment and spiritual consciousness stuff came from India'

This is absolutely and categorically wrong and you are very misguided if you believe and teach that people must follow Indian traditions in order to develop spiritually.

Realisation of self and truth lies within and is the birthright of every living person who has the potential to learn this themselves from their own experience. Teaching that you have to believe the same as someone else is at best, a distraction from the exploration of the inner self and at worst, the cause of religious manipulation and fascism.

Indigenous spiritual traditions have sprung up all around the world, with their own expressions of the divine and how people can reach it. If you study all of them, you might realise what is common to all of them and therefore real and disregard that which is distinctive to each tradition, which is just cultural baggage.

 

Hare Krishna!

From Snakeyes....

'The simple fact is that all of this enlightenment and spiritual consciousness stuff came from India'

This is absolutely and categorically wrong and you are very misguided if you believe and teach that people must follow Indian traditions in order to develop spiritually.

Realisation of self and truth lies within and is the birthright of every living person who has the potential to learn this themselves from their own experience. Teaching that you have to believe the same as someone else is at best, a distraction from the exploration of the inner self and at worst, the cause of religious manipulation and fascism...........


I am sure, I fully agree with the views of Snakeyes.
God is omnipresent, so the enlightment or spiritual knowledge can come anywhere anytime and is not something which is required to be imported or fetched from another place or country. It is something that probably invites a lot of arguments but the fact will still remain that it is not an absolute necessity that the enlightment or knowledge stuff has to be had from India.

Love,

Kumar.

 

Maybe this is how some of the posts here are
to be interpreted, but I never said anything of
the sort. The fact is that this stuff is ancient,
and in the West we dont have words for this,
save for 'cosmic conciousness' and even that
when written or spoken about by westerners
is taken to be something else. I agree as well,
that we can merge the little light with the big
light in more than one way, but in reality, not
too many people in the West even KNOW about
this. Christianity, the dominant religion, would
have you believe that Jesus was the son of
God, rather than His Christ-Conciousness that
He attained after turning 30. This is the very
same thing, but western interpretation of this
very subject has gotten it very wrong, and
completley backwards.
I dont even think your post is directed towards
my statement, but I am just clearing up what
I meant, and it simply was that we do not have
the same approach to divinity that the East
has.

 

Hare Krishna!

Dear Relayer,

I am extremely sorry, there was no intention to hurt anybody. First of all, I think the quote of Snakeyes refered to Yogi Bhairav whom I hold in high esteem.

My only intention was to point out to the over-enthusiastic views made by Yogi Bhairav. I am sure, he did not mean to say that without whatever came from India, people in other countries would not have enlightment and spiritual knowledge.......

I am sorry again.

Love,

Kumar.