An interesting theory my sister presented.

Hey,Whatshappenin23. I was trying to say that a large majority of people have had same sex expiriences or have at least fantasized about them.How do we explian this large majority of them that have had same sex expiriences?Were they expirementing and that's all?How could we assume then that most people are born straight?I would'nt call them "straight"I would call them bi-curious.Now out of those people,who would choose to continue on the bi/gay path with the knowledge of all the hatred towards them in the world.Even if they are really bi/gay.So it's natural for most of them to follow what society says is correct and "be straight",eventhough that may not be entirely accurate of who they are.Others have been able to explore their sexuality and become who they truly are.In this way I diffenetly think those are more advanced than people who are bi/gay and will go to the grave denying it,all the while being homophobic and being hateful towards bi/gays.They may try to do what is "right" and to lead a "straight" life.Does this make them straight?I don't think so.Did you think I meant you could intellectualize yourself into being bi/gay?If so that's not what I meant.I meant like above,that there are many bi/gays leadung a "straight" lifestyle who are'nt straight(by the way sex is not the only factor here).Anyway many of those people are strongly homophobic promoting hate towards us.There have been many cases of violence and so on.I really don't care who does who or anything.It's only that there's so much hate towards us and that's wrong to me.Perhaps the common sexuality due to reproductive instinct is hetro but why is it neccesary for "hetros" or so called hetros to hate us that much.If there's a valid reason I'd like to know.Is hate necessary for our species survival lol ??I don't care be straight if that is you,but don't put others down who are not,that's all Also I must've misunderstood you, I basically thought you were implying that bi's/gay's choose to be that way.
Gay animals and bi/gay from an evolutionary standpiont.Bi/gay important cause our species needs variety.Wow,Freaked out stuff lol.Intresting stuff.To be honest I have'nt really thought about any of those things.I'm sure I will now though lol.
*Jo*ey*

 

I feel you joey...we're mostly on the same page, we just don't know it...I think haha either way I respect your opinions, you probably have some personal insights that I don't have.
I had a same-sex experience as a kid. A very young kid, with no possible female outlet, and really no sexual feelings per se...Does this make me bi-sexual?? I think i could live with that. Actually, I know I could...Do you think its possible to be bisexual but still not desire any physical relationship with the same sex?? I don't know how to put this...I would never want to repress any feelings I have, and become a big homophobe. That would never happen. But could I be accepting of my bi sexual nature and still only desire to be sexual with women??

Admittedly Im having some sexual frustration lately...Don't know why. I have OCD, so thats a possibility. I was molested as a child...I had a very bad breakup, followed by some rejections...The list goes on...But regardless, Im trying to figure it all out. Trying not to hurt or decieve anyone in the process. I'd like to hear what you have to say about all this...are there parallels here to what you've experienced??

 

It's interesting, but I completely disagree. Your sister's theory is based on the assumption that one's sexuality is determined through one's environment and interactions with others, which I'm sure many other people will disagree with.

 

I never said it was fact, just a theory.

I mean, Ive had sexual fantasies about both sexes, but Im probably 95% hetero.

 

Your sister had the same thought I've always had. Hurrah! I'm not the only one. XD

 

When I was in highschool I used to say "everyone should be bisexual, because arent you suppose to fall in love with a person's soul and not their body, arent the qualities you love in a person, independent of their sex". I still believe that, but now Im unisexual, as in Im only atracted to the one person I love and will always love, because we are the same star

 

well i think that its true every1 by nature falls somewhere on a scale & nobody is really 100% to either side. some are fairly close..in the upper 90%..but i think everyone has that possibility of falling in lovewith someones soul from either sex although for some the possibility of 1over the otheris dependent on where u fall on the scale..samhain id give yaa 0.7% chance at findin lovewith agirl but hey i'm with a girl i'd give a 0.5% chance at lovewith a guy. but whenlovesthere & its undenyable itsthe person u love not the gender..but it isan interesting question as to how your perception of gender early in life would shape where u fall on thescale later in life.
but in the end it doesnt really mater where on the scale u r, u end up with who your meant to be with

 

absolutely as i jus said, you'd proly fall in like 87% or higher towards that end of the scale..
& yakno somethin tho, still only desiring to be sexual with women doesnt really afect the 11% chance that u could fall for either..
(u maybe higher towards 1side maybe 94%.. dont really knowya just guessin) i figure most ppl who concider themselves all 1 thing or another have at least 3% on average

 

now u i know & i think your closer to the 92.03% to 92.15% range
& your sis 78.89% to maybe 82.04%

 

Yup.
I'm whateversexual. LOL.
I just love love.
<3 soaring eagle

 

I mean a threesome with jim and pam would be totally fuckin hot. LOL

 

I believe that a persons personality can affect the way they recieve their parents/communities views on sexuality. For some people who are raised in heterosexual environments sexuality is just something people take for granted. Unless told otherwise (or it is blindingly obvious) they will asume people are straight. For the people who realise their sexuality is anything but heterosexual they may often think people will take it as shocking news when they come out but because of the media telling people that people are gay, get over it, people can often accept this news very easily. Except homophobes.

Just like to point out this is my first comment on this site, only joined because i wanted to post this. =] =] =]

 

haha yea Im really interested in where you get your stats from soaringeagle. Some sort of telepathy Im guessing

 

you guys are deucebags.
Leave soaringeagle alone.

 

its douche. Deuce is like 2, what you say when you want to hit the blunt next, or slang for a shit, you know. You don't think those random percentages are just a little strange? Just a little light hearted comment. But Im glad you stick up for people, that is a good quality. Honestly. Anyway, sorry if I offended you soaring eagle

 

Damn you, I burst out laughing in the middle of my computer lesson!

 

If you're saying the old nature v nurture, I agree with ya little bro.
Everyone has at least wondered once in their life. Some have tried and chosen one or the other. But the good thing is society is starting to be more accepting of our choices in what should be our own tastes.

 

Aye, sir!

 

i know for myself, i knew from a very young age i wasn't attracted to guys. ok, throw me in the brightly rainbowed box labled LESBIAN, and all is good. well, that worked for over 10 years (of sexual activity at least, i knew before i started having sex that i didn't like boys). i tried liking a boy once. my best friend. he was awesome, we got along so well, way better than i ever got along with my girlfriends. he kept saying he wished i wasn't lesbian, because i'd be the perfect girlfriend. and it would have been easier not to be gay, in a lot of ways. i wouldn't get beat up anymore, etc. so i tried it. i kissed him. he grabbed my tits. he enjoyed it immensely. i felt like i was kissing my brother(if i had one). ok, definitely gay.

well then i made some huge changes in my life about a year ago. and part of that was i met a guy, and fell in love. what the fuck? that came out of nowhere! i was happy in my rainbow lesbo box! so now there's like... confusion! oh no! i still like girls!! i'm still hungry for pussy. but i really love him, and i love having sex with him! i'm not bi, am i? i can't imagine liking other guys ever... ok, it's just a fluke. but then i feel bad about that because i've just made one of the great loves of my life, one of my great soulmates into just a dirty secret, or a silly mistake.

hmmm... i don't fit in any box anymore! well shit. who needs a box anyways?

and that's my point. i think all humans have the POTENTIAL to be bisexual. it's whether or not they are interested in experiencing that. i knew from a very young age that boys were not something i was way interested in. and i think for a lot of even gay as they get gay people, there is a chance to be attracted to someone of the opposite sex. it's just whether or not they're open to that idea. i wasn't very open to it, but it hit me over the head out of the blue so hard i couldn't not. crazy beautiful guy that he is, i thought he was gay,so i got all nice and close emotionally, thinking there would no way be an attraction wierdness. then bam, i realize he's not gay, and i am falling head over heels for him!

ok... in all fairness, he's mostly hetero, though he had some attraction on occasion to men. and this is the thing... no one fits neatly in any box. a box always leaves out some aspect of us that we either don't want to see, or that we're afraid of. we are all born unique and different, with a variety of things we desire and are interested in experiencing. that's the nature part of "the great debate." but nurture plays a huge role too. not in what we desire, because i believe we are born with very strong desires, and we don't need to be taught that. but society does influence what we THINK we desire. it influences what we think we want to experience, based on what appears to be true from the outside.

when i started to look inside myself to see what i truly desire, when i started dealing with my questions about sexuality (after so long of thinking i could only be a lesbo, it kinda fucked with my head!!!), i realized that even my dedication to being different, to being lesbian, was a social manipulation. i knew that i liked girls. that was a no-brainer. but then society says, well, if you like girls, you are lesbian, and this is the community you need to hang out with, the straight world doesn't like you, lets pen you up in the rainbow box and you can hang out with all the fags and dykes and we won't have to worry about you. it was awesome for a while! i had people who liked that i liked girls. i felt like i belonged.

feeling like you belong somewhere is the biggest way that society fucks with the nature bit. it says you must choose one or the other. girls or boys. rich or poor. opera or hip hop. shit man, nature is about finger painting. digging your fingers in to about 15 different colors of paint and swirling it all around. dipping into whatever suits you at the moment! that's all sexuality is. momentary preference and desire. some people are consistent with their desires, others are not. it's all good! society doesn't work by itself to fuck people up in what they prefer sexually or otherwise... society is made up of LOTS of people!! so there's really no one to blame for anything, there's just responsibility for each person to look inside themselves to find out who they are. plumbing aside, sexual preferences aside, WHO ARE YOU? does it make you happy? if so, great! if not, find what does!!!

peace and love
isis

 

I've thought that for years. Check out the Kinsey scale. It's all about that.