http://health.msn.com/dietfitness/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100171438>1=10514 Don't let your diet — or stomach — be held captive by these nutrition myths.
He's only talking about one particular factor in each food, though. He says that red meat doesn't cause cancer, but doesn't mention the other horrible things it can do to your body. He says high fructose corn syrup isn't more fattening than sugar, but doesn't mention that it can disturb the rate at which insulin is released from the pancreas. He says salt doesn't cause high blood pressure, but doesn't mention that it can cause hypertension and other adverse health effects. This looks like Men's Health magazine couldn't think of any other article topics and just compiled a bunch of one-sided bullshit.
Alan Aragon is far from being one sided oh, and qualify your statement about the horrible thing red meat can do to the body. keep in mind that any diet high in saturated fat will have problems. but look at lean red meat along with plenty of veggies and you'll see a world of difference. show me the studies, and spare me the sensationlized veggie/vegan view
Interesting read! I agree with #1, though I don't think most people actually need as much protein as he says. (Doesn't hurt, but it's actually not that easy to get that much protein in a regular diet.) Can't really argue with #2, either. That said, nutrtion-wise, I would pick a sweet potato over a regular white one. #3 - of course no epidemiological study has demonstrated a cause-and-effect relationship, but a diet higher in red meat is associated with (not definitively a causative agent of, but certainly associated with) higher incidences of cardiovascular disease and cancer of various types, like breast and colon. There is also evidence to support possible carcinogenic mechanisms of the compounds produced by cooking meat -- doing a quick PubMed search produces a number of citations. Sure, a lot of the studies are flawed for the reasons that the author indicates. But I think that red meat consumption should be moderate at least, and dramatically reduced or eliminated from one's diet at best. Lean meats like chicken and fish are better. Even if the evidence isn't conclusive, as Aragon would evidently like it to be before he trusts it, a large body of it is certainly suggestive, and I think this is worth heeding. #4 - Sure, both regular sugar and high-fructose corn syrup will cause weight gain consumed in excess, and they're calorically similar. The point is that HFCS is used much more excessively in food products, especially soft drinks (because it is sweeter), and that the increase in the use of HFCS correlated with an increase in overall sugar consumption and increase in obesity. It's good that he points out that they should both be avoided, though. #5 - from the way he words this section, I feel like he sort of concludes from the Dutch study that because having a low-K diet is similar to having a high Na diet, it's okay to eat high sodium if you have high potassium too; therefore, this busts the "salt causes high blood pressure" myth. Seems like slippery logic here. I also think that even if it doesn't cause hypertension, it certainly can contribute to it, and there is very good evidence that a reduced sodium diet can benefit some people with salt sensitivity, as he points out. Plus, most of us get more sodium than we need, anyway. It doesn't hurt to reduce it, for many of us. I kind of agree with plastic bagism. He's not wholly accurate, and some of seems a little misleading in the way it's worded. Interesting read, though.
its quite easy to get that much protein. i get it from an all college-cafe diet -ugh- if your smart and sensible enough about it and don't eat all the pasta and pizza you can get remember, were not talking daily minimums here, which are quite tame and quite low and are not geared to optimal sport nutrition, which is what i eat for and is much much different than what the RDA is. but i'm gonna be adding some whey protein powder, so i can get better quality protein instead of having to stuff my face with food
^ any particular brand in mind? I consume enough yogurt so i think i need to strive for other proteins but I really LUV the taste of this one brand, transform+ greens, it contains 1/2 whey and 1/2 soy protein isolate, neither of which I care to supplement at the moment but if ya what whey and the other stuff it tastes great. I cannot get enough protein on my budget , meat is expensive.
Meat is not the only source of protein. Most foods have some protein in them. Beans and rice are both good sources of protein, especially when eaten together, and both can be bought in bulk cheap.
i like and have used Optimum Nutrtions whey product. i've only used there chocolate flavored whey. however, i've heard good things about the other flavors too. quality stuff. i'm trying out some from True Protein, should recieve it early next week, it ships from San Diego area, so it takes a while using UPS ground. i've heard lots of great things about them, so hopefully turns out well.
WITW, tho I like the taste of beans I have a VERY hard time digesting them, so bad in fact that I've basically written them off my diet. I ate a whole grain hot cereal with nuts today and I calculated from that I've consumed 25 g protein. idk if the protein is complete but I can't eat too much nuts, have alergies, but like i said i can't eat beans either, it'll have to be other sources other than nuts and beans to complete the protein. Nope, been there done that, not comfortable, not sustainable. I just don't consider being bloated all time to be very healthy, it does make me less physically active. Even as little as 1/4 c. cooked beans causes so much discomfort and I've given beans a good shake, if a few months of eating the stuff is not enough to build tolerance than it's not for me, sorry. You have to accept the fact that like some ppl are lactose intolerant, some folks are legume intolerant. Besides, heme iron is the best source of Fe and you just don't get that from vegetable source.
Table 1: Digestibility of common protein foods Food source Protein digestibility (%) Egg 97 Milk and cheese 97 Mixed US diet 96 Peanut butter 95 Meat and fish 94 Whole wheat 86 Oatmeal 86 Soybeans 78 Rice 76 Source: National Research Council. Recommended Dietary Allowances, 10th ed. National Academy Press, 1989.
True, sports nutrition is a different story. But I think that the average person doesn't need as much protein as an athlete does. The numbers the author cites are commonly thought to be the amounts of protein that an athlete should be taking in. When I used to weight-lift, I tried to get around 210-220 g of high-quality protein a day and I didn't find it easy to do! I don't eat a lot of meat, so I ended up supplementing generously with whey. My congrats to you on being able to get your protein intake from a school cafeteria diet, that's no small feat. Liguana, most of the whey products out on the market these days are good enough quality that it doesn't make a huge difference what you get. (If you're an Olympic level athlete, it might be another story, but for most of us, typical whey is great.) Just look for something that you like the flavor of and that doesn't have a ton of sugar (I'm not sure any of them do, now). Costco has a very reasonably-priced brand here in Los Angeles. I've also gone with Optimum Nutrition in the past. The Protein Factory has whey without sweeteners if that floats your boat.
its hard....lots of cottage cheese, eggs, milk, whatever meat they have, soups - add in the green leafy veggies, tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, etc...its equals a lot of food, so it is hard, but can be done if your smart enough and have the diligence to follow through. which is why i ordered some protein. i am getting a slow cooker for my dorm room, so i can use leaner meat than what i get in the cafe, but so far this year it really has been pretty good, unlike years past but i do think people should aim for more protein. the RDA is out of date and recommends a huge consumption of carbs, that most dont' need. i do also think that peopel don't need as much protein as i do, as an athlete. theres a healthy balance though between what i as a athlete need vs what the RDA is.
I just calculated that even on one of my minimal days I'm meeting 1.5-6X the RDA for each of the essential amino acids for my body weight and this without protein supplements, meat, or legumes; just whole foods. So even at 85% absorption and double the requirements and I'm ok for all except methionine, but I've not included every possible food I eat, this is just with my minimal intake so I should be ok for that also. Something to keep in mind when spending $$ on protein supplements . Other nutrients are another story, heme-Fe is harder to get when on a budget and lots of us are anemic.
start with the wikipedia article on red meat, then go from there in india, red meat is eliminated entirely from the diet as it is alleged to make it difficult to achieve higher states of consciousness. regarding your sig quote, it is indeed true that eating meat has been a part of the circle of life for many cultures throughout history. perhaps if i lived in a hunter/gatherer society, i would eat meat; however, i am opposed to the way many farm animals are raised for slaughter. to me, this is not a part of the circle of life, but rather a sick aspect of modern society wherein demand exceeds natural supply.
take out trans fats like plenty of places are doing...and they're just gonna increase the sat. fats in the foods. key being - dont' eat processed or fried foods and you wont' have much to worry about
I did that and found some interesting links : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2516305.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/381699.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/435305.stm If you want to put an end to feedlots that answer is to eat free range meat.
