Shrooms and Cid

Discussion in 'Psychedelics' started by BudToker, Oct 11, 2007.

  1. BudToker

    BudToker Senior Member

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    I took 4 california gold cap shrooms and a hit of acid about 5 hours later. I felt the shrooms a bit but did not hallucinate, neither when I took the acid. The first time I took shrooms I ate 2 (not the same strain) and was hallucinating a lot. I have never taken acid before this and after I took the hit I was barely hallucinating. Do the effects of shrooms and cid stack? Do they cancel out? Anyone know what was going on and why I did not trip? I am guessing I just did not take enough potent shrooms or enough acid. I plan to do an acid trip on tuesday with 2-3 hits.
     
  2. nesta

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    your first mistake (in my opinion) is dosing by the number of mushrooms instead of the weight of the mushrooms. i've grown cubensis mushrooms a decent number of times and know as an absolute fact that each flush brings in numerous mushrooms of (sometimes greatly) varying size. whats more important than the number of mushrooms is the weight of the mushrooms.

    also, mushroom strains are irrelevant for the most part when it comes to quality. any consistant difference among "strains" is almost always related to growth patterns or outward appearance. the alkaloids present remain the same for the most part. its far more important how they are grown than what "strain" they are when it comes to quality of mushrooms.

    while strains are largely unimportant, i've never heard of california gold caps, but have often heard of psilocybe cubensis mushrooms referred to as gold caps. they're good mushrooms, can be VERY good if grown properly, but usually not completely mindblowing in doses under about 3g dried.

    mushrooms do not contain LSD, but they do contain other tryptamines which act on the brain in very much a similar fashion. tryptamines form a very high tolerance very, very quickly, but the duration of the drug taken seems to directly correspond to the duration of the tolerance. for instance, LSD lasts around 10-12 hours for many people, and it can be a couple days before your tolerance is completely gone. immediately after the trip if you take the same dose again, you'll feel virtually nothing, as far as i'm aware. over the next two days or so the tolerance goes down. during the later portion of this time you CAN trip, but you'll need a lot more to get to the same intensity of experience. DMT when smoked, on the other hand, lasts a very brief period of time and shows virtually no signs of tolerance at all....by the time you're up to using it again, usually people can.

    many of these types of drugs exhibit cross-tolerance, meaning a tolerance for one will inhibit the effectiveness of the other.

    mushrooms last about 6-8 hours usually, so you took a likely rather small dose of acid at the tail end of a mushroom trip, and the effect you received is likely to be significantly diminished. boosting doses with these types of drugs a while after the initial dose was taken is rarely very productive, and cross-tolerance applies here.

    personally in my experience with my homegrown cubes, i didnt start getting really significantly visual experiences until i got to around the equivalent of 5g dried or more
     
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    more effective ways to enhance the experience, in my experience, is to use other drugs not related to the tryptamines, which are generally providing the bulk of the effect.

    -pot works really, really well for this. its effect definitely yields to the effect of the psychedelic, but it does intensify it, and it just feels really good to smoke a bowl. it doesnt necessarily seem to get you stoned in a normal sense, but thats because the psychedelic experience has such an influence over your senses. it definitely adds a new dimension to the experience and is a very fun way to pass the time...be careful though, i tend to smoke more than usual when tripping.

    -cigarettes. while i no longer smoke them regularly, i always found cigarettes orgasmically pleasant when tripping, and even menthols, though i prefered cloves or vanilla flavored smokes to menthol, and usually just smoked normal cigarettes regardless. indeed i no longer regularly smoke cigarettes, but i'm considering getting a pack of vanilla cigarettes for an upcoming trip.

    -salvia was VERY, VERY interesting on hawaiian baby woodrose, and it stands to reason the same would be true with LSD or mushrooms. it is entirely unrelated to LSD, mushrooms, and other tryptamine-type psychedelics and so bears no cross-tolerance. in my experience its best to use very small doses and work your way up - i'd be afraid of overestimating a dosage of salvia when tripping and going too far. for this reason it would be best to have 5, 6, 7, or 10x but no higher. in my trip it made the salvia slow down a bit, become more solid, defined, and visually clear, let me pay attention, DEFINITELY increased the visual aspect of the woodrose, definitely increased the buzz and the thought processes. the salvia took a lot longer to fade than normal, and it was hard to tell because the effects of the salvia simply melted away from the effects of the woodrose, and i was left still tripping, just less so. you can repeat as desired, as the salvia builds no noticible tolerance. be careful with this

    -i've yet to try it (soon) but nitrous oxide is supposed to significantly increase the effects of a trip for a short period. its supposedly incredible. same goes for nitrous and mdma, and similar drugs.

    you can mix the LSD and the mushrooms, but you'd be better off taking them no more than an hour apart. less if possible, i'd say, to risk decreased effects with the later dose.
     
  4. nesta

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    also dont forget the power of meditation
     
  5. Tommy1The1Cat

    Tommy1The1Cat Senior Member

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    also if u want to hallucinate with the acid its much better to take 2 hits, 1 hit will get u a nice body high take more of BOTH! next time! ^ Kudos nesta!
     

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