Do you ever see the 60's making a comeback?

I see a lot of similar (yet, very different) political issues, wars, and negativity as was seen in the 60's. Do you think the "hippie hype" will ever return?

 

In one word NO!!!!!

I lived those days and people cared about one another. Peace Love & Understanding and I use to travel throught the USofA to protest the Vietnam War and I don't see that ever coming back.

Today is ME ME ME

Maybe same issues, but not the same mentality, sadly.

Always

Stoned

 

Awww, fuck. That sucks. As much as I know your right, I hope your wrong.

 

Why would you want that way of thinking again? Protests making heros look like villans and lazy scared "hippys" look like saints. NO THANKS. You old "hipppys" should be ashamed of yourselves for what you put allmost every vietnam vet through. Funny thing is back then you guys used to think that you were changin everything, but in fact when i look into the past, i see all hippys as nothing but scared lazy bums, to afraid to serve your duty as a citizen yet criticize everything your country stand for. Not in your case since you are canadian which is just weird that you would care so much about an AMERICAN war, oh wait it was a TREND to be a jobless travel everywhere bum, how could i forget.

 

I don't agree with you easy rider, hippies were NOT against vietnam war veterans. They were very much for them, which is why they were protesting to bring them back home and end the war. The vietnam war wasn't shits and giggles, you know; the war was horrible, and I'm sure if you ever meet a vietnam veteran they would tell you the same thing.

Also, hippies were not afraid to serve for their country. In my view, hippies served their country for a much greater cause than war in the 60's; they made sexual equality a reality, they had a musical and aristic revolution, they paved the way for generations to come, they promoted love, peace and equality, not hate war and discrimination. They made a difference. Alright, the world is far from right today, but your average person has a much more open mind than before the 60's. But back to the draft - the hippies did not want to give their lives for an unjust cause, it wasn't because they were lazy! They fought to bring back US troops (which DID eventually happen)!

And may I just add: what is wrong with being Canadian and caring about the Vietnam war? I'm English and I care about it. Lots of people suffered during that war (and many others), why shouldn't the world remember them? Don't Americans care about the savagery that took place, and still does, in other countries? Don't you care about Tibet? Don't you care about Burma? People suffer in these places, just like they suffered in Vietnam. I, myself, care about everyone and every war. We should not restrict ourselves to our own countries; I believe we should take an interest in the world as a whole.

 

^^^I absolutly agree with you... you are so right! and it's nice to see another young teenage think the way you do! the way we do-- thank you

 

easy rider, why are you in a hippie forum when you don't agree with what they've done?

I still protest outside of different places-the white house being one of them in 2005. Hippies from the 60's/70's revolutionized our world as we know it today. They were an amazing asset to our history.

 

Emelia, tell my Uncle (vietnam Vet) that "hippys" were not against vietnam vets you could probably learn something about how things really went back then, not just a story that old stoners glorify.

Lovelyxmalia, the reason i am on this forum, is that once i bought into all this love, peace, hippy junk that all people on here are doing, but i decided that i would much prefer to change the world on a more profesional level, as opposed to smoking a joint and blaming all problems on the system, why not actually change the system? I find that most hippys are pure hipocrates. No offence but there are way more influential ways to get your voice heard, not to mention that more then 80% of the people on this forum are not even into politics at all but more into, hey what kind of music should i as a hippy listen too? If i get dreadlocs am i a hippy? i smoke weed so i am a hippy. GET REAL.

Also i think that 60's early 70's were the end of Americas "happy days" as hippys protested on so many rights and changed the world so well. Todays society is a direct result of what hippys did in the 60's. thats why i find it so funny that you guys are asking why it can never be the same as the 60's nowadays. Give yourselves a pat on the back.

 

To easy rider69... I'm totally surprised that you show such animosity and arrogance...Not that I haven't seen all that/heard it before etc.... Who are you to pontificate from on high??? I, for one am an ex vet. Honorable discharge and all that... I thought the war was wrong when I enlisted (only reason I went was to get out of a drug bust).. Personally, I should have had the guts and moral conviction to either have gone to Canada, or to have let the bastards throw me in prison for refusing to go to an immoral undeclared war.... At any rate; I have seen alot of what "lowly hippies" used to espouse, to actually come to pass.... Alot of the idealism and selflessness that hippies cared about has, in fact, carried into the subcultural mindset of the Amerrikkkan psyche...Example::: Who thinks it's morally right or justifiable to kick high-school kids out of school for something as trivial as how a person wears thier hair.... Remember your precious Miranda rights??? Do a Google on the facts behind that case... It goes on and on.... Check berkely free speech times etc etc.... You sound like an embittered person that takes a certain sort of pride and satisfaction in decrying anothers zest for life, and their hopefull outlook for a brighter tommorrow.... I feel somewhat sorry for you, but true, not a whole lot..... After all, some of the people of your mindset, have ended up becoming highly placed despots, fatcat industrialist etc etc... I find it wonderful that there are still the flames of the freedom fire burning brightly across this lil sphere we call Earth.......... (PEACE & ALL THAT OTHER DUMB HIPPY SHIT, EH)+++++++++++++++++++ SQUIDPUPPY

 

easy_rider and everyone else, the experience of your uncle can easily be offset with the experience of a Vietnam veteran friend of mine. And vice versa Something like that has different meanings for different people.

Don't be so quick to discredit the entire social group, and likewise for everyone against easy_rider. They were complicated times. Nobodies right if every bodies wrong, as the springfield would say.

Aside from that, the 60s won't happen again because of economics. Think about the closeness of cost of living and average wages and think about todays relationship. It was possible to work and put yourself through school, as one example... or possible to travel the country on very small income.

Not that those things aren't still doable... but it's definitely not as easy. The focus has moved from transience to establishing roots, the rise of the suburb and the fall of the artist community.

 

Squidpuppy - How does your story of pure circumstance have any relevance to anything i stated. (so your a hippy that got busted and was made to fullfill your duties as an American citizen feeling bitter the whole time. the way you make it sound was that you had an option to go or not and screwed it up.) mind you i dont know the facts or anything about you.

See, you descriminate against me for having a more professional / conservative outlook on life, and that makes you yet another "hippycrate"(new word lol) furthermore adding to my argument. I mearly stated that there are better ways of speaking your mind than doing drugs and bitching about how the system dosent work. You have to be part of the system before you can bitch in my opinion, this is like somebody that allways whines and complains about politics and never votes.
As for my "arrogence and animosity", im sorry if i state my opinion to straight forward. next time ill talk in words like dude and far out, maybe then you will cut me some slack.

Floydianslip6 - Good points.

 

Easy Rider,

There were basically two kinds of hippies. Not sure what we'd call them. Maybe
'protesters' and 'communitarians' ? I lived on a commune and folks like us had
a lot of sympathy for the guys who went to Nam. We thought they were more victims
than anything else. Misguided and used.

We were about building a better world, not hating the old ways. We tried. And failed.

Littlefoot

'Peace, like a river flows.'

 

easy rider, you don't have to agree with what we do/did...but please respect it.

You decided to take a different approach to your life-I respect that and admire that.

Please don't tell me that what I do is wrong because I would never say that about you. I don't smoke pot nor do I have dreadlocks. But I believe in love and peace and the reason I classify myself as a hippie is because I love every person I have ever met...no matter how bad of a person they may be and no matter how angry I get towards them.

The 60's and 70's may have been the end of the happier times. Now we have a "politically correct" society. I don't agree with our society but I respect it. Not only do I respect it, I feel that it can be changed by people who care about others. If you think about it, each person is put on this planet for other people. You go to work for people, your job was created to serve the growing economy. Why not show these people that you generally care about each and every one of them?

 

Fair enough guys, sorry if i offended any of you. Cheers.

 

Of course! How can they NOT return??

2060-2069
2160-2169
2260-2269
etc...

See? Plenty of sixties yet to come.

 

^^^ I think he's on to something....

 

lol. Only 53 more years until the return of the hippie era! Quick, everyone, start saving up some acid!

 

lovelyxmalia,

There was hype back then. That's what everyone saw on the Media. But there was a
true cultural revolution in progress, too.

Then and now, the Media (propaganda arm of the Money Party) shows you stoned
people with colorful clothes (or none) and long hair using weird slang and listening
to corporate rock (a lot of which was excellent).

What you didn't, and don't, see, is the heart of the movement: People out on
the Land, working together, trying to create a new society.

In 1970 there were about 3000 'communes' in at least 34 states. The people
who lived on most of them used less drugs by far than the typical American
neighborhood. We didn't wear outrageous clothes and lie around all day
smoking dope and listening to the Jerfferson Airplane. We dug wells and
chopped wood and planted gardens and wove cloth.

_We_ didn't call them 'communes'. That was the Media trying to make us
out to be Communists (we thought Communism was as bad as Capitalism).
_We_ called them 'villages'.

Seems to me that there's plenty of 'hippy hype' around, if I am understanding
you correctly. I see long hair and beads and tie-die and such all over the
place. So what? Costumes and role-playing aren't going to get us anywhere.

Littlefoot

 

Wow! I gotta say I feel a little stupid now that I've asked haha

And Littlefoot...I agree with you. There is a lot of hippies still around new and old...but the movements aren't there. They don't play as big of a part anymore.

 

I always believed that people should think about something more than just themselves,sometimes people forget theyre not the only ones in this world