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green_revolution · Oct 9, 2007

This is pretty scary:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6992

So what do you think? Is it for Islamic terrorists? Anti-War protests? Energy Crisis?

Personally I think it's mainly for the latter two. How is a military force supposed to prevent a terrorist attack within America?

tikoo · Oct 9, 2007

i note the sceduled exercises include localized civilian participation . this stinks it up as a propaganda opportunity . the govt advances its agenda of authoritarianism . yes , they imply , you shall always and extremely be very afraid and we will save you .

plastic bagism · Oct 9, 2007

"...the military could also be used to shunt anti-war opposition within the US."

Sounds like government protection against a US revolution to me.

Pressed_Rat · Oct 9, 2007

If terrorism existed in the way they want us to believe it does, there are ways they could prevent it. One way would be to close off the borders. That would go against their agenda, though, as they want the borders open because they plan to intergrate the US with Mexico and Canada as part of a unification process modeled after the EU. The fact is, most terrorism is state-sponsored and state-orchestrated, and the story we have been sold about Islamic extremism serves only to scare the public so they will accept whatever "solutions" the government offers.

Anti-war protesters don't pose much of a threat to the establishment since they control much of this movement, and the notion of an energy crisis is just more government propaganda that's been indoctrinated into us by the media, so the public will be willing to allow more control to the government.

If anything, they are preparing for a situation that would entail mass civil unrest. For instance, if (or should I say when) they collapse the economy. Or in the event a virus or plague is released, which I have no doubt they plan on releasing in the future. So they need to conduct drills so they can practice controlling and rounding up people as they bring in this new system that has been well documented.

These drills are really nothing new, though this is certainly one of the bigger ones, and none of the reasons for this drill will be the reasons they give us. It has nothing to do with foreign terrorism, peak oil, left wing protesters, etc..

Grim · Oct 9, 2007

Terrorism is an urban legend.
Anti War protesters have lost their potency, and become nothing but a underfunded group of pseudo-idealists with a thin grasp at best on the issues they're protesting.

The drills are preparation for future martial law police-state environments.

gardener · Oct 10, 2007

I do find this extremely scary and unconstitutional:

The Executive Order entitled "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq" provides the President with the authority to confiscate the assets of "certain persons" who oppose the US led war in Iraq:

"I have issued an Executive Order blocking property of persons determined to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people."
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6377

Congressional recourse:

Congressional Recourse
If Congress does not like what the executive branch is doing, it has two main options. First, it may rewrite or amend a previous law, or spell it out in greater detail how the Executive Branch must act. Of course, the President has the right to veto the bill if he disagrees with it, so, in practice, a 2/3 majority if often required to override an Executive Order.

Congress is less likely to challenge EOs that deal with foreign policy, national defense, or the implementation and negotiation of treaties, as these are powers granted largely to the President by the Constitution. As the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, the President is also considered the nation's "Chief Diplomat." In fact, given national security concerns, some defense or security related EOs (often called National Security Directives or Presidential Decision Directives) are not made public.

In addition to congressional recourse, Executive Orders can be challenged in court, usually on the grounds that the Order deviates from "congressional intent" or exceeds the President's constitutional powers. In one such notable instance, President Harry Truman, was rebuked by the Supreme Court for overstepping the bounds of presidential authority. After World War II, Truman seized control of steel mills across the nation in an effort to settle labor disputes. In response to a challenge of this action, the Supreme Court ruled that the seizure was unconstitutional and exceeded presidential powers because neither the Constitution or any statute authorized the President to seize private businesses to settle labor disputes. For the most part, however, the Court has been fairly tolerant of wide range of executive actions.
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http://www.thisnation.com/question/040.html

gardener · Oct 10, 2007

And this is even scarier:

The executive order violates the First, Fourth and Fifth Amendments of the US Constitution. It repeals one of the fundamental tenets of US democracy, which is the right to free expression and dissent. The order has not been the object of discussion in the US Congress. Sofar, it has not been addressed by the US antiwar movement, in terms of a formal statement.
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I wonder where this crop of presidential candidates are on this issue? They appear to be complicit by their total lack of response.

Actually I think all the fuss they made about Moveon.org's ad, proves where they stand... right behind Cheney and company.

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