aright i have been wondering about this for a while, but never really asked it until now. Okay So i was thinking since trees and plants are actually "living" and people and animals are also "living" but the main difference is that we have a brain, so we are much much more self aware. But now for my question. Can plants and trees actually feel a sensation of anything?? I hear that by stepping on the roots you are hurting the tree, but can the tree actually feel it? Thinking about it if there is even a bit of a soul in em than their lives sound wayy too boring. I bet it would suck worse to be a tree or something than to not exist lol. But yeah trees can't feel bored anyway i know it just sucks thinking about from our view. Opinions?
i doubt they can feel anything since it's the brain that tells you what you're feeling and like you said, they don't have one. there's really no way to know for sure though
Yeah i guess it just seems unfair like whats the point for them to live if they are not even aware? I know they're beautiful and stuff and us people couldn't live without em. So that makes me wonder, mabey the only reason trees exist, is for the sake of humanity and other animals.
Trees don't have brains or nerves or so we think. I doubt they can feel anything. Even if they can we need to kill them to survive.
I haven't really thought this through but off the top of my head... This question always confuses me - people always seem to ask 'if trees are alive, can they feel pain?' but I don't understand why people don't ask about the other senses ... can they see? can they smell? can they hear? can they taste? Trees work on a different system to us ... we need a brain to make out heart pump and for the senses and ... well, to be alive. On our level of understanding trees don't have/need these things... they don't need a brain or a heart (of the human kind) and the senses aren't vital for their existance. I think we'd know if they had these senses anyway... I don't think a tree's existance is boring ... we serve different purposes. You can't really miss something you never had.
Well those other questions are very obvious, of coarse they cannot smell hear or taste because they do not have a nose, ears, or tongue. What if in my next life i was to reincarnate into a tree? Than i would sure as hell have something to miss but obviously would be impossible to remember but still.
Fair point, but if it's obvious that they can't smell hear or taste then why is it not obvious they can't feel? They don't have the same nerves or anything like we do. They are obviously sensitive to some things (the things they'll react to) but I think if they felt pain they'd react to it. And yeah, but I'm not talking about reincarnating (considering the majority of people don't remember previous lives - if we have them), a tree will not miss any form of human ability even if it had one in a previous life.
They have different senses. Some are photosensitive and will grow towards light. Others can sense gravity and will grow opposite towards it. But compared to animals? No.
Yeah see they do have senses of some kind, so that must mean that trees are "someone". I know that they are nothing like animals obviously but in the end i guess it just comes down to trees not having a brain so it cannot sense anything.
Why on earth would we need to kill trees to survive? Are they planning something and we need to get them before they get us? Sneaky bastards. But seriously, why would we need to kill them? Thier fruit can be eaten no problem, it doesn't kill them, wood is ridiculously unnesscesary, paper is obsolete. Don't get me wrong I don't have any problem with using products made from trees but saying we wouldn't survive without using those products is a bit far fetched.
I’m not sure about trees feeling pain but I figure shoes would feel pain because they have a soul. Like maybe if they walked in crap they would feel degraded or if they weren’t kept shinny they might feel – used and abused maybe if their laces caused someone to trip and kill themselves their soul wouldn’t get to go to shoe heaven. Cheers!
in nature many things consume each other. lumber is usefull, and of course we have to eat something to survive ourselves, as do all living things. plant and animal communities exist in a kind of interlinked balance. within these communities they nontheless consume each other as part of the natural course of events. for various reasons, owing to what is unique about our nature as a species, our numbers have gotten out of balance with the rest of the web of life. individually though, we still need to eat, if not plants, animals, if not animals plants, or realisticly, both. we do need however to be conscientious of our impact, part of which means somehow finding ways that actually work, to bring our own birthrate down to where are total population will eventually someday return to some sort of sustainable balance. likewise such consideration applies to all we consume and waste in our consuming. it is good to recognize the spiritness in all things. this is a good step in the direction of reminding ourselves that we are not the end all and be all of them, but like everything else, a part of something greater then ourselves, even collectively as a species. perhapse everything in some sense 'feels' pain. which is another way of saying, somehow recognizes and acknowledges what is harmful to it. certainly everything alive has some sort of survival mechanism analagous to this recognition. it is also a simple reality however, that if we choose not to eat at all, it is quite unlikely that as individuals we will not long live ourselves. yet this recognition in turn, is no excuse for disreguarding the need to reduce disturctiveness and the practices which contribute to the incentives to create the conditions which promote suffering. so it is not unreasonable to cut SOME trees, to harvest SOME fruit, even to kill and eat SOME animals, and at the same time recognize a moral responsibility to do so with the minimum of causing suffering and harm with which this is possible. =^^= .../\...
ofcourse they can feel!!!Maybe not by the means ur talkin about but they can...u know that when they're listenin to classical music they grow up faster?How do u explain this?They don't even have ears!!!!!!!
ofcourse they can feel!!!Maybe not by the means ur talkin about but they can...u know that when they're listenin to classical music they grow up faster?How do u explain this?They don't even have ears!!!!!!!
As I've said before, I've cut down a lot of trees (two summers falling) and I've never heard any of them scream.
Thenmax- Not everything "feels" obviously, everything that is alive "feels" Because that is what being alive is, is having senses connected to the outside world.
Only humans have souls, Only we can break the pattern, All animals have feelings and a cool cat is a lazy cat, Trees are beautiful, I almost fell out of one yesterday so I didn't climb it instead Love and respect are the way (getting high helps)
