Salvia on ABC Nightline

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by Pepopstico, Oct 2, 2007.

  1. Autobot

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    BTW, if you can't see, I am realy on your side.
    The only drug that probably will never be scheduled (again) in the US is alcohol. Nobody ever tries to clam meditation value of alcohol, they are just honest, it relaxes them and it is fun.

    And BTW, I have come up with some pretty damn profound shit while drunk....or at least i thought it was profound while I was fucked up or my mind was clouded. ;)
     
  2. dacre4

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    First of all i am not a child, i am over 18. And why are you exaggerating the percentage if you know it is not true? And yes, I do find salvia very "fun" because i get to see crazy dimensions that i could never believe in without it and the adrenaline rush is the other big reason i love it. And to top it all off, it makes my mood in life better overall.

    Before i had done salvia, which you say i had larger issues, imo i do not really find that the case life was just kinda dull even though i had a fulfilling social life, ate perfect, and always stayed in top physical shape. After i had done all the salvia, i feel like every minute just being alive is worth more than anything of anything, and I did not savor the importance of life nearly as much as i do now.

    I am not depending on a chemical to find the meaning of life, I just want to put the right chemicals in my brain to get the most fullfilling life i can :)
     
  3. Autobot

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    I know you are over 18, but I don't know if you are a child or not.
    I suppose in the laws eyes you are an adult so that will have to be good enough for me. ;)

    As far as exaggerating percentages I know are not true. are we seriously bacl to this?

    Ok lets clear it up.
    There could never be a true percentage because most people are not honest about their reasons even with themselves.

    So if I was going to actually guess a real percentage I would say 100% of the people do drugs because it is fun (or relaxing). I only said 99.9% to leave it open for those 1 out 1000 people that lacked the intelligence to understand. ;)


    My point is drugs contain none of lifes answers like that one guy claimed.
    Drugs if anything are problems, bumps in the road. However, I realize I am or nobody is perfect and we all suffer bumps. This just happens to be one of mine.
     
  4. dacre4

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    Well if it is fun and relaxing, than that means that it helps depression, which means that it is helping the person mentally. Drugs are not bumps in the road you are being ignorant by grouping all drugs as "bad" which is obviously not true. Drugs are to be used as tools for making you feel the way you want to feel. Some drugs you could call bumps in the road, the drugs that rot away your brain and body, but salvia is far from that. I do not know where you are getting that drugs have lifes answers but i never said that. I am just saying drugs do make life better. Not for everyone of course but i know it is a fact for myself.
     
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    Though I didn't find salvia either fun or relaxing, it was enlightening in its way. I had never experienced my ego wrung out and torn apart into perceiver and actor in quite that way before. I can't say whether that experience translates into a more complete person in my daily life, but it was something new.

    If international travel expands one's horizons, so too does inward travel. But, the same danger exists in every type of traveling: if you travel too far or stay too long, you will have nothing familiar to return to.
    ...Just like Bilbo Baggins...

    And, sometimes things are just fun.
    What's so wrong with that?
     
  6. Autobot

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    You can not say salvia is not bad for you, not enough research has been done. Also, most of us smoke it, and obviously that is not good for you.
    It may not be as bad for you as other legal drugs like cigarettes and alcohol, but it isn't like it is an apple either. However, my point is that not everything in life has to be healthy for us. Also, sometimes just sometimes the government needs to stop trying to protect us from ourselves. I mean if you want to sit on a couch, watch TV, over eat, grow morbidly obese, they don't stop you and that is way unhealthier then many illegal drugs. However, they will give you a handicap sticker for your car because you are too fat to walk 5 more parking spaces in to the store, and you will even get an electric cart to carry your fat ass around the store because walking and shopping is too much of a chore.

    You see, I am for the legalization, but when people claim they do things like salvia for spiritual reasons or mental clarification not only is it bull shit or atleast perceived as it, it scares the hell out of people responsible for making laws. So instead of trying to soften the blow like that, because people who don't use drugs don't understand clarification through a drug induced stooper, be honest and forth coming and just say you do it because it is fun and relaxing. They understand that. Then follow up and say it should be a personal choice as long as it does not hurt anyone else then leave me alone.

    Hell, I do WAY more harmful things that are legal than smoking salvial.
    Such as ride and race motorcycles. Drink, smoke cigarettes, drive a car, work construction, walk down town at night, etc. However, I don't get looked at twice for those.

    Now are you a little more clear on what I am attemting to say?

    Absolutely nothing and that is my point.
     

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