Islam's Racial Make-Up

Discussion in 'Islam' started by Salsabil3, May 5, 2007.

  1. stoney69

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    hahaha ..like i said, you find actions acceptable and reactions not! typical

    so now you bring in the adultery part as well ..well, keep on expandin this because as i've said b4 ..you seem to lack the insight into the teachins of Islam. perhaps you may also wish to check the pages of the other religions (most societies even) and see how adultery is viewed! and if you really knew or cared to research on the Islamic law (shari'a) you'd know how difficult it is for anyone to judge anyone for adultery ..which basically requires, 4 witnesses who have SEEN the act and to the minutest detail ! now i dont really care about the authorities who call themselves Islamic or the fanatics who call themselves Islamic, just as there are ..in the christian, jewish, hindu camps n more. there's a difference between self-proclaming you uphold the ideals of somethin and the teachins that are there for anyone to research on. what you have done (as have others ..and continuously) is to be brainwashed by the fanatics that exist in your societies ..be them in media, politics etc

    ..and there is a difference between "many women in europe holdin extremely well paid jobs" and there NOT bein an equality in pay for the same job done by a woman versus a man

    denial, indeed is useless!
     
  2. unity100

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    you have NO idea about islam or muslim countries, i say.

    in muslim countries west, everything about it, every single thing about it, are always disdained, scorned, villified, cursed, insulted. and in many areas these are done by printed and televised press, freely, as if there is no government supervision. im not even talking about what is preached on fridays in mosques.

    and you dont get ME started on the subject of equality of women.

    "getting paid less" eh ? this is a pitiful 'trouble' when compared to what women suffer in muslim countries. and im even leaving aside getting slightly beaten if her body parts are rather visible, in more backwards countries.
     
  3. stoney69

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    so you do acknowledge/accept the fact that the equality bit is exaggerated and women don't really get paid equal ? i've still not expanded into the other areas of inequality

    as for the rest, again ..action acceptable, reaction not!
     
  4. unity100

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    women dont get paid equal in up to middle level management in many countries. not only thats a different topic of debate, but it is very debatable in that also for many positions women are preferred, decreasing the chances of men getting those jobs.

    expand into other areas of inequality if you will, but keep it in topic.
     
  5. stoney69

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    so what you're sayin is ..all the talk of equality, in reality, is pure bull ?
     
  6. BlackBillBlake

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    You are a nut.
    How can you justify one single stoning of a woman? You can't. It is utterly barbaric, even if there were thousands of 'wirtnesses'.

    Nor can you justify punishment by mutilation, as precribed in the koran, or indeed the death penalty.

    I would hope you will one day wake up from your medieval stupor. Also, try usong correct english, missing the 'g' off the end of words makes you look a bit stupid. But then, who but an idiot would believe the rantings of a medieval warlord and pervert?
     
  7. stoney69

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    well then, refer the bible and refer the torah too ...why is Islam always on trial??

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adultery

    an excerpt from application in the USA, i thought Maryland was most funny!

    In the United States, laws vary from state to state. For example, in Pennsylvania, adultery is technically punishable by 2 years of imprisonment or 18 months of treatment for insanity (for history, see Hamowy) (criminal statute repealed 1972), while in Michigan the Court of Appeals, the state's second-highest court, ruled that a little-known provision of state criminal law means that adultery carries a potential life sentence.[3] In Maryland, adultery is punishable by a fine of ten dollars. That being said, such statutes are typically considered blue laws and are rarely, if ever, enforced. In the U.S. Military, adultery is a court-martialable offense
     
  8. unity100

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    Religions out of middle east and caanan (all of the major religions except buddhism) have always been violent. Islam just took violence to a higher level.

    talk of equality is not bull, leave aside from being pure bull. what inequalities you are referring to in social life are work in progress.

    existence is a work in progress. 500 years ago daily concern was "how can i save my butt from raiders's swords" and now its making career and comfort. tomorrow it will be better.

    there is no need to upset the pace of evolution with religions of a distant past.
     
  9. stoney69

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    thankyou! so basically religions are all violent ? (buddhism is no religion - ask the buddhists too)

    if we're evolvin ..equality, policies, laws etc being work in progress 500 years later. why is middle east being condemned ?? we've only just begun to shake off the crap the invaders left us with ..averagin 40 years since the region gained independence

    wait ..i stand corrected, they're still fuckin with us!

    yea, it is ISLAM that took violence to a higher level ..
     
  10. unity100

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    "shaking off the crap invaders left off"

    excuse me, from ancient era up to renaissance era the history of middle east is a history of barbaric invasions BY the people of middle east.

    from assyrians to persians, islam empire to mamelukes. do you have any idea how barbarous were the assyrians ?

    so they werent able to keep up with technology and got invaded after renaissance. at least for that duration there didnt happen mass killings, like the time when they 'persuaded' turkestani tribes to convert to islam.
     
  11. BlackBillBlake

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    America is a wierd place - it's a mix of archaic bullshit like this, and some quite progressive thinking too.
    The inhumane and cruel laws in the USA come from the influence of christianity mainly. Don't forget, the original white settlers were religious fanatics who weren't particularly welcome in europe.

    I'm no champion of american values, like islamic values, they fall far short of any decent humanist standard, as we've seen in iraq. And in that example, we can also see the link between perverse attitudes towards sex, and torture/inhumane treatment of prisoners.

    The USA can't even run a decent prison system for it's own criminals.
     
  12. stoney69

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    see, this is what im sayin ..why are the american values not dubbed "christian values" just as saudi, irani values are being dubbed "islamic" !
     
  13. BlackBillBlake

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    Some american values shoud be dubbed christain, but not all. It wasn't christian values that sent men to the moon, had woodstock festival etc.

    Actually, the people who did the prisoner abuse in Iraq weren't following christian values either. 'Love one another' JC said, and let's face it, that's not a value which is carried out very widely under any of the established religions or political systems extant on this planet today.
     
  14. hitomi

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    actually muslims doesn't care about race.
    so that's probably why you didn't find answers.
    We are all the same, for god.
    white,black,etc...
    One of the greatest things about islam is that there are no prejudices.
    peace-out man.
     
  15. unity100

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    Is that why all other religions are put in lower status, and also jews are told to be going to hell for not going to islam ?
     
  16. hitomi

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    People need to make the difference between the religion, what's in it, and how people use it.
    There are lots of people who are using islam for their own good, like they take a quote and out it in the context they like.
    And that sucks, they dont send the positive message from the quote.
     
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