So, I'm going to be taking acid for the first time soon, possibly with my friend who is schizophrenic. I've smoked with him before but I could tell he was way more out of it than anyone else, at least while he was peaking. He smokes his fair share though. Any info about acid + schizophrenia would be nice.
Well, I know that using LSD can bring up any underlying mental illnesses. So, if schizophrenia runs in your family, you may be at risk. I'm sure this goes for anyone with schizophrenia. Using LSD may intesify the disorder and could cause a turn for this worse. However, who knows? If your friend takes LSD he may discover wonderous things that benefit his schizophrenia. It's really a matter of chance, mindset, and the severity of his schizophrenia, I think.
Its a dangerous combination. As a friend you need to do your absolute best to make sure your friend is in a completely comfortable and safe enviornment. Its hard to describe what that would be exactly, depending on his symptoms. He needs to avoid things that would trigger ill feelings. Also, if you find that after taking it he seems to be in a bad place, it would be a good idea to have a plan to move to a more comfortable location or become involved in an activity that will ease his mind. And of course, if he's never tripped make sure he knows what tripping is and the kind of experience he can expect. Let us know how it goes...
What type of schizophrenic is he? From what I understand, there are different sub-categories of the illness, ie the paranoid type, the catatonic type... if he is the paranoid type - a really high strung, easily disturbed kind of guy, I would say stay away, although there is always the off chance that he could be scared so badly and think so much that he could begin to get a handle on his fears. Not worth it when the risk is so high and chance of any real lasting reward so low.
Don't do it. For yourself you are going to need as sane an environment as possible and having somebody around who's schizo is not going to be good for your head. As for your buddy I can't see how it's going to be helpful to him either. Sorry but sounds really risky.
I wouldn't suggest it. There's a chance that it could help, since it was showing promise in psychotherapy before it was scheduled, but the risk that it'll make it worse too high for me to advocate schizos taking hallucinogens.
Not advisable. You need a calm, loving and relaxed people around you since its your first time. You definitly don't want anyone freaking around. It will spoil your buzz and maybe even get you in some paranoid thoughts.
I don't see much good coming out of this, and like others said, if something makes him start to act ridiculous or have a bad trip, you're not going to want to be around them.
Dude that is the STUPIDEST thing i have ever heard. Not only are you putting yourself at risk for a bummer by being with someone who is almost guarenteed to geek...but your putting your friend's already unstable mental state at risk. Dont be selfish, if you were his true friend and you know he has a disorder you should do everything in your power to stop him from taking it. Acid Dreams goes into detail about people with underlying mental illness who lost it all from a single trip. Dont put your "friend" in that position.
im diagnosed paranoid schizoprenic i was diagnosed about 3 years ago. i have and continue to take all kinds of drugs. it all depends on the grip on reality that your friend has. ive never had to many problems with my illness other than my meth benders when i stay awake to long. LSD pretty much just amplifys your emotions so any paranoid or deranged thoughts he may be harboring could send him over the edge quite easily. but i would like to add ive never had a bad trip due to my illness, if anything it has given me something to do for 12 hours and not concentrate on my illness (which could be what hofmann saw in it for helping schizoprenics) but this doesnt mean your friend will be ok. the general amount of schizos that i met would not be even close to be able to handle a psychedelic experience. if he is schizoprenic he could be having hallucinations and showing general delusional thoughts already
In light of what everyone has said I have to change my opinion. It is not worth the risk. I only recommended what I did because I have been considered bipolar and had full blown manic episodes. But I have used psychedelics, including LSD many times and never had a problem with it. If anything I feel that mushrooms and LSD are capable of helping people like your friend. But under the wrong enviornment and in the wrong person it could easily cause an unpleasant "psychedelic psychosis". Have you decided what your going to do yet?
I think that all that matters now is how things play out. I know I'm going to be taking some around Halloween because a bunch of people are pitching in to buy a sheet. If he gets some before then, I'll probably take it with him. But in response to some things you guys have said; He has a good grip on reality, and also, I haven't pushed him into this at all, infact he asked me to do it with him and another friend because he doesn't want to be around anyone who would easily make him uncomfortable or irritated.
if used in the proper set and setting LSD could actually cure this persons so called schizophrenia. but like most everyone else would agree it COULD make matters worse. i tripped many times in a couple of years with a friend of mine who is bipolar. there is much that i didnt like about him but there is much that i learned and overall i enjoyed our trips together. in his case he wound up taking too much and his condition did get worse. part of his problem was that he was unable to listen to what i had to say - i could have been someone to heal him if he was willing to listen. maybe it was my fault for not knowing how to go about helping him. i wouldnt necessarily listen to all these people who say you shouldnt trip with him. but definitely be warned and know what you are getting into. the chances that you guys will find a good enough set and setting to make your situation work for the best is VERY unlikely and i wouldnt suggest you dont do it unless you find someone who is very experienced who thinks they can help guide you.
