Does Anyone kow "Up Against the Wall MortherFuckers"?

"Max's Kansas City was across the street from Union Square, just north of 14th St. It was a phony plastic place going for the "hip" mainstream look of Peter Max and the "musical" Hair."

Absolutely, but I wouldn't exactly call it plastic and phony and leave it that. The place was the antithesis of everything the counterculture stood for, regardless of anything I may have intimated at an earlier point in this thread. I got co-opted by the kind of people who went there back in the day, and I still get confused about it sometimes all these years later.

 

lilBear, I lived in LES 67-68, corner of e.3rd and second ave., then e.6th bet.ave a and 1st ave. do you remember the janis joplin show at the old yiddish theatre on second ave.?

 

Does anyone here remember Bonnie MotherFucker from NY? Whats the last anyone saw of her? She was our costume manager when we (the Down Home Nasties) toured Alaska back in '71. Thanks folks.....

 

Ranger,

Give it a break. If you are going to keep trying the same approach over and over again nothing will come of it. I've been on two different sites with you, you've tried the same thing twice on this site, in this thread and in another one, and you tried the same thing on the other site before this. One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

It might be helpful to tell us who the Down Home Nasties are or were, and why they were touring Alaska. Short of that, unless you tell us some more about Bonnie, you ain't never gonna find her, and if she is not with us anymore you ain't never gonna know that either. Who was she? What did she do? How did you come to know her. What was your relationship to her? Who else knew her?

I'll give you some credit Ranger, at least this time you mentioned that she was your costume manager, that could be helpful, maybe it's all you'll need. Sorry to be so critical, I really do hope you find her. GOOD LUCK!!!

 

The fact of the matter is that it's been a while since I brought up the subject of Bonnie of the NY MotherFucker clan and there seem to be a number of NY MFs here now who weren't on line here before. Bonnie came west with the group of MFs who split NY about the time the house in the East Village blew up back around '69 or '70 and one of the crew with her was Chuck MF and another MF named Dennis (I think) with a bad arm. They were in Oregon as of a year and a half ago as Mouseman can confirm. The Nasties were part of the Church oof the Good Earth and house band for Magnolia Thunderpussy's Head Kitchen around that time untill invited to tour Alaska. Bonnie was with Sag (one of our guitarists) and opted to come with us. Shortly after we returned to the Haight she had to fly back to NY on family biz or some such and we lost track of her.

 

If your Nasty ya know it.. if your a mother fucker ya know it, If your Bonnie ya know it so no explination needed.

If Ranger wants to ask about Bonnie all day long in every forum, he can if he wants. That's what The Garden is all about..Ranger is co-mod in The Garden, futhermore, you should have a little respect.. Ranger was, is and will hold the respect of the colective family forevermore. If you knew Ranger, you would show him the respect he deserves!!

Magnolia ThunderPussy's use to be the famous Drug Store Cafe on Haight and Ashbury now a Ben n Jerry's I believe... my fav was the Pineapple Pussy

Bright Blessings
sh

Love you Ranger Baby!!!

 

Sorry Shameless, My apologies Ranger, sometimes I forget myself, I know you have a lot of repect on this site Ranger and although I can't say I didn't mean to disrespect you, I know I shoudn't have just the same, it didn't help either of us. Thank you for giving me a chance to explain before you tore me apart, which I know you could easily have done.

But Ranger the part where I asked you to tell who Bonnie was & what she did etc. and who the Down Home Nasties were, was not meant to be disrepectful, and I truly think that the info. you gave in your next post about Bonnie etc. will be more helpful in finding her, if she can be found, then anything you have tried thus far.

Pace y amour (peace & love)
peter

 

After thought!

Shameless,
I've never disrespected you, and I've never asked for too much respect from anybody and I'm not asking for too much from you, but you could give "me" just a little respect too.

 

Shameless, *Blush* You're too kind hun! *HUGS*
Safty Pin, I feel I do owe you some thanks for prompting me to add more detail although if you remember those days prying into a friends past was taboo and led to you're being suspect as an agent for the Man at least, as a result (not to mention the general fogginess of those memories) I don't have a lot of personal info on Bonnie. The 'Sag' I mentioned was 'Sagitarius'. *L*

 

Without alerting to much attention on who we were/are, we use a coded message that only 'Family' would dig and respond to. This thread is The Mother Fuckers thread for mf/ers looking for lost members of their tribe and to connect.. the MFers know who they are and know who is being asked about.

Ranger has only posted a few times in the last yr, we look forward to his posts and when you said "Give it a break" it sounded offencive to me, like you were trying to demean Ranger... Ranger is my Brother and I got his back, just like he has mine. When you disrespect Ranger, your disrespecting me and the 'Family'.

Safty Pin, I don't know you and I have yet to see anyone acknowledge knowing you. I do know Ranger, going on 40 yrs. I know of the Good Things he was/is involved with and what he represents. Ranger never comprimised himself and is still following the same code we lived when it all started. He has held fast to his belief in Freedom and Brotherhood. He is an Honorable Man and has made great contributions.

I dont care if you write your blog in the Garden bc you seemed harmless, altho there is a place in Hip Forums for Journals, as I suggested to you a while back.. but when you talk to someone with the tone you were using with Ranger, my Brother, I will state my feelings on the subject in no uncertian terms, so there is no misunderstand in the message I convey.

I wish you no ill will, but I do wish for a little Unity at least here in The Garden when we gather to be as one mind and rejoyce in reconnecting with our brothers and sisters, bringing us HOME in the sence of bypassing distance and creating a presence of being through this venue. Let's use it for the good, let's focus our energies on locating the ones missing, perhaps one of us will be fortunate and be inspiried by Divine Intuition and will come forth with the info to the one that is asking. Let us not hinder by bringing negitive vibes to the table. I respond badly to them, making myself negitive in the process.

I hope I'm not coming off to defencive/offencive. It always best to know when your walking on thin ice.

Bright Blessings
sh

 

OK, I can respect what you are saying, but along the same lines then, I guess I should be able to ask if anyone knows where some of my brothers and sisters are, for instance Paul, Lloyd, or Barbara!

 

yes safty pin, you are free to ask, why would you think you couldn't..you are free to write what you will as long as it harms none..we are all brothers and sisters, we are here to help each other if possible.. this IS the place to ask.. this IS the place where ones will come eventually to find someone or to drop in and say "howdy, I am alive and well".. I have come to The Garden Party so lets shake it up.

We try to keep the Garden clean, a sanctuary where we can gather and share our experiences get to know one another or reaquaint with each other without a bunch of BS to wade through.. I have found several Bro n Sis' since Skip let me open this forum a couple of yrs ago. It has had it's ups and downs, but has grown and settled into a good place to connect with likeminded ones.. it also contains a little history of who and what was happenimn' back in our glory daze of the 60s/70s right up to the NOW of it.

Enjoy and be sweet
sh

 

Your probably right, SafetyPin. I was gone, so what do I know?

 

Hey there luvione -- finally got back "on board" to read messages. stupidly busy this month. I will try to call you before you read this (unless you read it within the next 18 hours!

 

Great to see names of folks I knew. Little Brother (he & I always got confused because we were both "LB"s), STP John (I still talk to his "Ol lady" regularly). I moved on. Some people never had the opportunity.

 

Hemlock, you musta been a shade hipper than I. I never got to hang out with Bob Fass, other than being a religious listener. I could name some names, but not online. How do we go offline on this site? Is there a private message function? I think there is. Never been to Tennessee, but got as close as Kentucky. I've been in NW for many years (like many of our co-horts) but just moved to SoCal. Not entirely comfortable here, but I expected that.

 

Hi Honey Bear,
Good to hear from ya, finally!! Who needs an ol lady when ya got me to rag on ya a lil my brother! LOL!! Well, I met a cute guy at a show at the university, bunch of ol geezers mostly, my best friend looked at me and sd " Honey, we are old geezers." My reply was" Not Peter Pan!" Anyway there was supposed to be a barn dance and it got moved to next month, and the cute guy was gonna be there! Damnt! Oh well. More damn miss's than hits this yr. ; ) Saw a good blues show last night with my daughter and her lil crew! I knew some of the people playin and she quit bein weird bout bein seen in public with the ol hippie! I did get some kiss action from a bass player though! Nice! I'm sorry ya aint to thrilled about Socal, I think thats why I always migrate back to my town here. I fit. Although it hasnt even been 2 months and I'm already to run from the city!AHHH! Insane , yes I am, or am I since I know it?? LOL! Ok, this has been fun, but it's probably off the topic ,sorry kids,, just wanted to say Hi to my bro!

Lovin Ya,

Luvione*

 

No worries Luvi, we're informal around the Garden.. as a matter of fact, that's why we are here.. to hookup wif ole firends n family..being off topic is who we are and what we do...lol

sh

 

Thanks S.H. !! Lil Bear is a busy brother, and with all my runnin around the country, we have a hard time keepin up w/ one another sometimes! I am glad we have somewhere to meet and say Howdy Doody Cutie! LOL!! Ya'll have been very gracious in allowing me to share, thankyou! Peace & Light,

Luvi*