For the past 8 month's or so, during every meditation session of mine, wether out in public, or in the wilderness on top of a cliff, or in the multiple living rooms that I've set up prayer alters in order to keep localised energy, I have been chanting Om Mantra. At this point, I find that in order to realize the sylablle, I need do nothing more than sit down and listen, really listen, with the ears behind the ears. To really be attentive is what is required, but being attentive invloves a complete emptying of the mind of thought form and judgement so that the object of concious substance blends into our waking mentality. The sacred syllable stands for the Trimurti as AUM. A - Represents the emanation of existance from the nucleus of Brhama U - Represents the preservation of this existance as upheld by Vishnu. M - Represents the destruction of existance when all matter is breathed in by Shiva, returning existance to the essence of God. During meditation on Om, if done properly, we can ascend through level's of progression allowing us to truly perceive how we are reverberation of this original source sound. At the first level, it resembles the sound of a wild honey bee, buzzing with varying tones while moving quickly around. As you progress, the sound resembles that of harp's, flutes, up into ocean's roaring, and eventually into the primal cry of the universe, life itself echoing throughout the cosmos. Once, invoulantarily and unannounced, while sitting on a mattress and gazing out of my window during the early morning hours, my whole being transitioned into some level of complete and absolute harmonic oneness with the universe itself. I saw bubbles of sound rising out of every minute pocket of my gridded vision, and I noticed that this, indeed, is God. As one of the bubbles floated down into my open hand, resting just above my palm, I felt that I was holding the complete source code of creation, eternity in my hand. I dont want to go into detail about what happened afterwards, but this was the turning point for me from being agnostic to a firm believer in God. I am wondering, and I believe my dear friend Yogin Bhairavaji can help understand, that if the external projection of existance, the dream thought-matter of life, is the outward non-existant form of Kali, and the True trancendent reality lies in the dreamer Devi, how does Om come into play, as far as Kundalini awakening is involved? I started this thread in order to generate question on many different levels as far as coming to term's with reality, Om, and God.
The reversed conciousness of the Kundalini Devi, the dreamer who projects the dream of what we perceive to be reality against the backdrop of maya. God-realization will come when we reverse the prana flow from being projected outwards in thought matter, inwards to our God nature. Yogi Bhairava is one of the illumined souls who has done just this, and wrote a book on his experience, so the authentic truth which he speaks comes from a realm far beyond our ego consious self delusions. If I were to give any actual attributes to God, considering that I am a practicing yogin though not turned on (or, rather off, I should say!), I would be only grasping blindly at that which I have only speculative imagination of, not direct consiousness in.
Craig, is that meant to belittle what is being talked about here? Or is that just how you are going to talk in this thread? I only ask because I meant for this to be an informative and honest thread, not for joking around. I dont mean to be rude if your intention was not to make a joke out of me, but that's what it looks like.
no i didnt mean it like that, when have i belittled you in the past? that's not my intention and i hope you don't take other things i say like that. i am just trying to understand what you are saying, but i have no knowledge of Devi and a thousand petaled lotus flower. could you answer the question in a way i can understand plz? what is 'turned on' ?
To reverse the life energy from flowing out of the mind and body, to flow inwards. Kundalini is the energy at the base of the spine, which through certain techinque rises through the chakras into the highest position, and this awakens the dreamed ego concious from it's sleep (ignorant of God, only perceiving external world) to a state of God realization, the soul becoming one with the dreamer, Herself. This is the simplified version of the sadhana but basically, this is the point. And Im sorry, I apologize for assuming you had negative intention with your post, but the word 'man' at the end sounded as if you were not taking me seriously at all. Sorry Craig!
so, OM mantra facilitates this kundalini energy's movement? or? how does OM relate to this? *srry, i am kind of lost in what you are saying but i am grasping some of it.
does it have anything to do with the vibration from the throat by chanting the aa-uu-mmm ? i read something about the physical aspects of chanting OM and it said that it is relaxing in the chest and stomach because the throat vibrates straight down into the body.
Ok prabhu-jis, here we go. Picture a person sitting from a side view, their torso. Imagine they are translucent, you can see through them. As you view them, you can see seven centers, the cakras, starting from over their head, to the center of it, at the throat, the heart, the stomach, lower abdomen, and crotch. From the Cakra over the head, the Sahasrara Cakra, emanates a pure consciousness; this consciousness is Prana, and is synonymous with the pure divine mind of Sat-Cit-Ananda, Being, Consciousness, and Bliss, the divine qualities of Siva, the qualities of the self of God as the divine self of all of realty, the universe. At the Sahasrara this divine being of Siva divides Himself into a feminine form, the Divine Mother, who is the Kundalini. She Herself is the beforemantioned Prana and She becomes and manifests as all of the described cakras. She then through these Cakras reduces the divine prana down and down, until when it gets down to the lower five cakras in the torso it finally manifests as the consciousness that we experience as ourselves. So the Kundalini Devi serves as a reductionistic mechanism that reduces the Divine MInd of and as absolute shiva or Brahma, down to our experience of ego self. Now this Prana, once it gets to the Ajna and on down, is moving out of the center of each Cakra. At the Ajna Cakra, the Cakra in the center of the head, also called the third eye, actually acts as the total mind of the individual. The ajna is not up in the forehead, it is in reality the whole mental field, when it is an "unawakened" Cakra. This field of mind, as it moves outward experiencing through the senses, is called "pravritti", or in Sanskrit a moving outward mental flux. This outward moving flux is moving outward at all of the cakras. Now, Yoga, with the techniques of dhyana(meditation), pranayama, and the yoga postitions called asanas, all act to reverse this outward flux into an inward flow now called nivritti, or the nullifying of the pravritti outward flux that creates the experience of finite or individual self. If nivritti continues long enough through weeks and months of perfected yoga sadhana , the Kundalini who is maintaining this outward pranic flux as Her divine capacity, begins to stir and ultimately awaken, because She is being told that the time for the individual to awaken to its divinity has come. She then reverses the pravritti, into a perfected consolidated continuous nivritti, as now all of the prana is moving back into the cakras. If continued, the Kundalini now moves up the Cakras, until reaching the Ajna or higher, effectively reversing the finite experience of self into the experience of the source God, Shiva, as the Kundalini prana reaches Sahasrara. Now, that persons finite consciousness is withdrawn, and instead experiences themself as they were before the pranic descent, the divine mind of Shiva, Brahma, what ever you want to call it. These are the basics of divine realization. Refer to my commentary in the thread on "What Is consciousness", in the Mysticism section of Philosophy and Religion. The chanting of om or similar mantras also acts to effect the pravritti field of the Ajna into nivritti. To accomplish such, one must sit upright and focus on a single point before you. Utter the syllable on one long breath as you stay focused on the dot alone with your vision. Repeat at least ten breaths. When done with other yogic techniques one day a flowing effect will occur at the intonation of the mantra, ultimately becoming a constant flow into the center of the head. THis is the beginning of nivritti. As a final statement, here is a critical verse by my Guru, Swami Satyananda of Bihar School of Tantra: THERE ARE ESSENTIALLY ONLY TWO TYPES OF HUMAN BEINGS, THOSE THAT ARE ON THE PRAVRITTI PATH, AND THOSE THAT ARE ON THE NIVRITTI PATH. A MAN FOLLOWING THE PRAVRITTI (OUTWARD) PATH LOOKS AWAY FROM THE CAKRA BINDUS(centers) TOWARDS THE OUTSIDE WORLD. HE IS ALMOST ENTIRELY MOTIVATED BY EXTERNAL EVENTS. THIS IS THE PATH OF MOST PEOPLE AND IT LEADS AWAY FROM SELF KNOWLEDGE AND INTO BONDAGE. THE OTHER PATH, THE NIVRITTI (REVERSED)PATH, IS THE SPIRITUAL PATH, THE PATH TO WISDOM. ON THIS PATH THE INDIVIDUAL BEGINS TO FACE THE BINDU, TURNING INWARD TOWARDS THE SOURCE OF HIS BEING. THIS PATH LEADS TO FREEDOM. THE PATH OF EVOLUTION IS THE PRAVRITTI PATH OF MANIFESTATION AND EXTROVERSION. THE PATH OF INVOLUTION, NIVRITTI, LEADS BACK THROUGH THE BINDU TO SAHASRARA. IN FACT, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF YOGA PRACTICE IS TO DIRECT YOUR AWARENESS ALONG THIS INVOLUTIONARY PATH. Refer to my website www.kundalinidream.org, and read the back cover of the book Kundalini Dream. Namaste, Yogin Bhairava Atmabhoda Sarasvati
That was amazing to read. I just started meditating very recently and felt I dont know, not really in tune. So Im gonna try the 10 breaths and focusing on one point btw I loved what you wrote on the What is consciousness thread
Bhairavaji, thank you for your detailed response. Does this mean then, that aside from the entire the physical perceived univerese, that even Om, the initial utterance of existance, is also contained within the outward projection of our Devi, and is therefor nothing more than another manifestation of maya? And if this is so, does Om have any other immediate purpose beyond being a tool to further the yogi in awakening? Because as far as I've gone in perceiving depth of the permeating energy I am beginning to feel that for me to dwell on it and desire to understand what it is doing, rather than where it is coming from, I am wasting my time when I could be moving along
Yes. Om is the inititial pranic emanation. Om, "The word", nada prana, The Kundalini Devi, are all synonymous. Mantra is the Sanskrit word for mind deliverer, or mind crosser, and has as its source God Himself, as with the rest of the Yoga Tantra paradigm. Om as sound(Nada) moves out of the Bindu in the womb of the mass field of the Hiranyagarbha, which is pregnant with an etenal number of causal Bindu points. The moving out of causal prana begins there at each Bindu, with a vibratory motion that is Om. So when Om is uttered by a sincere human seeking realization, that Om will still the pravritti karmic wave into the singular flowing event of nivritti prana, eventually moving into the bindu of the Ajna Cakra. This pranic flow is technically termed "dhyana", which is the word for meditation. These are all simple higher yogic basics. But Autentique dear, yoga has many components to it, all designed to effect the myriad of factors that go in to creating your experience of finite consciousness of the ego. They all must be performed as the overall yoga sadhana, in order for all of the cakras to be cleansed, awakened, and opened, so that the Kundalini can awaken and move unobstructively. Simply put, although chanting Om while doing the Trataka exercise of dot focusing can produce some enlightening experiences, it will be limited in the long run. If there is anything worth doing all the way right in earthly existence, it is the yoga sadhana. Peace, Love, and Flowers, Y.B.
I really love this teaching. I was just discussing this with a friend today. There is a direct relationship between wisdom and introspection. Taking a look in the mirror is the only thing anyone will ever need for enlightenment. I love this forum
Although we as karmically diercted individuals herald the mind as the boon of modern human, and indeed, we ned not look far to see what it can build, this net forum for instance. When the mind has been literally and authentically sublimated and transcended into the higher Cakras, which are its source, then the mind is clearly seen for what it is, and as is also described in the higher Tantras, the mind, the thinking mental self, is a direct obstacle to divine self realization, enlightenment, samadhi, nirvana, whatever word you choose. As a matter of fact, one of the first verses in the "Sive Sutras" says, "the mind is the slayer if the real". And it is. And be rest assured my friends, these higher transcendent reralms of life are indeed real, not only that, when you do indeed access them, you clearly see how why what we call reality is only a paltry world of existence, at best. Now, back to the mind. God deals with two levels of manfesting reality, and just for the record, God is reality. All reality, all "realities" everywhere, are all the complete body of God. The question is not "where is God", the actual question is where is there not. But, consciousness as experienced by an entity is what delineates how this mass macro divinity known a God is experienced as any given reality. It might be more like a hell than a heaven, and justifyably so. Hell and heaven are subjective keys and gateways to the sublimity of the objective or outer heavens;simply put, the way out is in. So the mind as the outward experincing of life and finite existence, as the obstacle to its own inner life and source, is called "Kali". Ever seen a really good picture of Kali, with all the death and blood around Her, that is all directly symbolic of our minds and lives, and how we as externalized veiwing beings live and view what we think is reality. Kali serves as the macro diety of the Devi, the Divine Mother, the Kundalini, that evolves as the ego mind so that God can evolve as embodied life as us. She effectively screens the vilolence and suffering that the Mother must undergo as God. So Kali is the aspect of the Mother that is "us" when we are in what we think is our normal life. You could also say that our minds, in descent from God as they are, evolve out away from God, and are the descending Devil cast out of heaven. But this did not happen a long time ago, it is on going. "Om" is the purity of the word of the "pranic" sound vibration of the Mother before it manifests the lower Cakras and becomes "Kali', our "Devil self". Now the mother as the dormant KUndalini is held in latency. Arouse Her through Yoga by facing inward toward your true inner divine self, and the Kundalini awakens, withdraws you as your "Kali mind", and takes you to heaven where you re-become who you were all along, the divine self of heaven. Namaste Peace, Love, and Flowers, Yogin Bhairava Atmabhoda Sarasvati
