I am able to get either a 5x or 10x extract of salvia, I cant get plain leaves. I dont want to smoke salvia. I am thinking about getting the 5x extract and using it as a quid- chewing it in the mouth for 30 minutes. I see no reason why this would not work, But I am looking for a dosage- How many grams of the 5x extract would I need to chew to feel its effects? I dont care about how bad it tastes- ive drank cactus juice and chewed tobacoo before. Any help will be apreciated.
First thing about chewing that comes to mind is the fact that the Salvinorin-A won't be released as rapidly as it would be through intense heat exposure. If you really want to try this, look on http://www.erowid.org for more information about dosages. Should find most of your info about any herb or drug there.
Mmm, Ive done the research, but there are little or no reports of people using an extract as a quid. Erowid gives a common dosage for sublingual salvia as 6g's dried. Is it true that a 5x extract is 5 times as potent dried leaf...? If it is then I should take 1.2g's (6/5), would this be a good dosage?
I would like to know how this goes for you. So please keep us posted. Now you are right on the amount of extract to use as a quid. However I am thinking the effects may be more intense due to the fact the extract is releasing more salvinorin. The leaves you have to chew. The extract is quite a bit of powder. I would say start with half a gram and pack it in the lip like snuff(chewing tobacco, for you people who are not from the states). Liquid Salvia doses are .75ML I do not know if it is pure or has anything else though. So comparing that could be dangerous. I think a Half G Snuff would be a good start. I just dont want to use a half a G of it when I could smoke it into 10 trips. lol lol
Ya good luck chewing, me and a buddy tried with leaves it's almost impossible, its SO bitter, you can't even imagine it. Try making a tea out of it, theres some recipes on erowid but they list leaves so I think you can just convert it like this. If it says to use like 10g of leaves, thats 10g of 1x, or 1g of 10x, or .5g of 20x theoretically.
I've actually tried this with 15x in an oral dose. I did it in a candle lit room by myself. I put a lot of salvia extract in my mouth (which tasted like herbs, but it was extremely bitter). It was also hard to hold in my mouth for the 30 minutes. If I did swallow, I'd replace with some more salvia. I used about 4 to 5 good sized pinches in my mouth. Effect: - Legs felt heavy and awkward, it was hard to walk. - I felt extremely silly. - It seemed I was veiwing my room from a pond that was gently rippling. - Shadows appeared on the walls in weird forms (frog people, tiki heads and robots) and they began arguing with each other in barely audiable wispers. - Closed eye visuals were extremely intense involving lady salvia and a phycadelic parade. It lasted a good ammount of time, but I didn't get a very strong experience. I would reccomend filling your mouth for a mind-boggling experience. Good luck!
Thanks guys. I want to have a more mild trip for my first experience. I prefer longer and less intense highs than short and strong ones, it gives time to get out the house and think more etc. So il probably chew halph a gram of the 5x extract and then boost the effects with a little cannabis.
Did you have that feeling at all where you wish you hadn't done it but it was too late? I get that when I smoke it sometimes. I wanna try the quid, but I dont wanna be stuck on it for two hours if I'm not feelin good. Any emotions you had while on the quid let me know.. THanks.
I also wanted to try this method, as it's descibed as being gentler and lasting longer. If it's hard to keep the dose put in your mouth, why not fashion a tiny pouch of cloth or mesh to keep the dose in, like a Skoal bandit? I just thought of it, so I'll try it tonight and report back.
