call me crazy

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by green faerie, Sep 20, 2007.

  1. green faerie

    green faerie m L e

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    but i've decided to try doing a vegan atkins diet. my goal is it make it for 2 weeks. 20 carbs a day. i doubt i will, but it'll be interesting to see what happens. my decision to become vegan was pretty impulsive, as are many of my decisions, so i figure, why not give it shot? but for no longer than 2 weeks. i have no intentions of living in a prolonged state of ketosis. if i dont die i'll try to remember to post and let everyone know how it went.
     
  2. lazysunbird

    lazysunbird Member

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    Isn't the atkins diet based on eating meat?
     
  3. SilverClover14

    SilverClover14 Senior Member

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    Atkins is unhealthy in any form and ESPECIALLY as a vegan. I would suggest South Beach diet over Atkins because you can eat as many veggies as you want. You will be hard pressed to eat enough if you're limiting yourself to 20 carbs a day without eating meat, dairy, or egg. Carbs are not just in grain- veggies and fruits have tons of it as well. If I'm not mistaken, the 20 carbs are 20 net carbs- or carbs that are not fiber- which is ridiculous if you're not eating meat to supplant your calorie and nutritional intake.
     
  4. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    you are crazy

    you only live once, enjoy all the food you can

    I am a veggie, but eat everything else I want.
     
  5. squawkers7

    squawkers7 radical rebel

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    Introduction

    Proteins from animal sources are a vital part of the Dr. Atkins diet, and it really cannot be done successfully without them. A person who eats a modified ovo-lacto vegetarian diet, which includes eggs and cheese, may be able to do it, but it would be impossible for a vegan since a pure vegan diet can never be low enough in carbohydrates.
    Instructions

    Difficulty: Moderately challenging
    Steps

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    Step One

    Begin the Atkins diet. You will follow the basic plan but make some modifications.

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    Step Two

    Eliminate junk food from your diet. This includes all white flour and sugar, and most processed foods. Carbohydrates in the Atkins diet come primarily from fresh vegetables, nuts, berries, seeds and some fruit in moderation.

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    Stock up on tofu, eggs and cheese. These will be your main sources of protein.

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    Step Four

    Count your carbohydrates very carefully during the two-week induction level of the diet. This is the strictest part in terms of carbohydrate consumption. You are only permitted 20 grams of carbohydrates.

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    Step Five

    Read labels. All vegetable-based foods contain some carbohydrates. A pound of tofu, for example, contains 2 grams of carbohydrates. One-half cup of beans, which are a good protein source, may contain in the range of 25 grams of carbohydrates. Cheese also contains a few grams of carbohydrates.

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    Adapt the induction level to your own diet. Meat eaters will primarily use nutrient-dense fresh vegetables, such as broccoli, asparagus, eggplant and spinach, as their carbohydrates. You may have to eat fewer vegetables in order to stay in your carbohydrate range.

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    Step Seven

    Take vitamins and other vita-nutrients as prescribed in the diet. This is part of the diet. Look for vegetarian formulas, which are usually available, but be careful to avoid products that contain sugars.

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    Look forward to more diversified eating. At the end of the induction level, the diet gets more lenient and you can enjoy a wider variety of foods.

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    Step Nine

    Figure out your critical carbohydrate level for losing (CCLL) when you enter the ongoing weight loss level (OWL). This number is, as defined by the Atkins diet, the most liberal level of carbohydrate consumption that corresponds to your own individual metabolic capacity to continue taking off excess pounds.

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    Increase your intake of carbohydrates to the level where you will still continue to lose weight. The level also depends on how quickly you wish to lose weight. The Atkins diet emphasizes endurance rather than speed. Take it off slowly and keep it off permanently.

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    Enjoy deviations, but carefully. For example, you can have more fruit or pasta, which are high in carbohydrates. Start with one or two deviations a week.

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    Step Twelve

    Remember that you must be more careful than the "regulars" on the diet. Your basic diet already has more carbohydrates in it.

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    Step Thirteen

    Figure out your critical carbohydrate level for maintenance (CCLM). This is the amount that you can eat and not begin to gain weight.

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    Fluctuations in weight are common, as long as they are very small. Once you go 5 or more pounds above your ideal weight, it's time to cut back again.

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    Step Fifteen

    Remember that this diet will always restrict your carbohydrate level somewhat. A person with an average metabolism usually must stay between 40 and 60 grams of carbohydrates per day. Continuing with fresh nonstarchy vegetables, seeds, nuts and berries is the easiest way to eat more variety and still remain within your personal boundaries.

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    Step Sixteen

    Cautiously reintroduce vegetables that contain more than 10 percent carbohydrate, as well as whole grains such as oats, barley and couscous. Since most of a vegetarian's protein sources contain some carbohydrates, this will always have to be tallied into the total. Be careful not to overdo it.

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    Step Seventeen

    Keep the sugar, white flour and processed foods out of your life, except for special occasions. Sugars supply empty carbohydrates devoid of nutrients.
     
  6. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    20 carbs a day is slow suicide for anyone. Even me. Believe me i know about this
    Vegan atkins really doesnt sound possible, and certainly not healthy. I mean its not healthy for anyone
    Without a large variety of fruit, veg, grains, sprouts etc available being vegan becomes unhealthy. Infact any diet becomes unhealthy. Id have thought youd know this, having made the great choice of being vegan
    There are other ways to lose weight (i assume thats what this mad idea is about?) Dont do it. Your body wont appreciate it and may get very sick
     
  7. WalkerInTheWoods

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  8. Magical Fire Lady

    Magical Fire Lady Senior Member

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    The atkin's diet is putting your body into emergency survival mode... which is no good for your body. Basically the atkin's diet is a really bad idea no matter what so don't do that to your body if you care about it.
     
  9. shirley

    shirley Member

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    The guy who came up with the Atkins diet was obese when he died
     
  10. Sage-Phoenix

    Sage-Phoenix Imagine

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    By all means cut out refinied carbs (white bread/pasta/rice/sugar), but not carbs as a whole food group. They are way too important, for everyone but especially veg*ans.
    You won't lose that much weight in two weeks, and what you do lose will probably end up getting whcked right back on when you quit the diet anyway.

    The important thing is to get into good eating habits for life. You long term health really isn't something to be played around with by making impulse choices and trying quick fixes.
     
  11. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Diets only work if you follow up with physical activity.

    Get a bicycle and avoid crappy food. Its really that simple. I can ride for 50 miles on nothing more than a drink and a bag of peanuts.


    x
     
  12. squawkers7

    squawkers7 radical rebel

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    Atkins died last April at age 72 after being injured in a fall on an icy street.

    Before his death, he had suffered a heart attack, congestive heart failure and hypertension, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing a report by the city medical examiner.

    At 258 pounds, the 6-foot-tall Atkins would have qualified as obese, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's body-mass index calculator.
     
  13. Magical Fire Lady

    Magical Fire Lady Senior Member

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    Let me add that carbohydrates are one of the most important nutrients you need and what you need most of. Thats why its biggest on the food pyramid, duh! Carbs will not make you fat. Overeating will make you fat. Its best to eat whole grains, not refined carbs. So yeah. Anyone that goes on the atkin's diet is pretty crazy and kinda dumb in my opinion.
     
  14. green faerie

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    okay, i gave in today and had a banana. the end of my crazy experimental diet. i didnt feel sick or anything, i just noticed that my mental and emotional state had been negatively influenced a little bit, but if it only took a day and half for me to notice something like that, how would it be days from now? a week? i dont regret giving it a shot, now i know firsthand how my body reacts to severely curtailed carbohydrate consumption. i didnt expect it to happen so soon, but i knew it might happen. plus i got pretty bored eating nothing but nuts. i could have gone a full week i'm sure, but i think i would have been pretty unhappy and hungry, and i didnt figure it was worth it. but at least now i know.
     
  15. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Keep in mind that nuts can also be quite fattening.


    x
     
  16. lunarflowermaiden

    lunarflowermaiden Senior Member

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    The Atkins diet makes me nervous. Please, please, please be careful if you, or anyone else for that matter, is considering trying it. I strongly recommend avoiding this diet. I feel it is a load of garbage, along with many other diets out there. The secret to losing weight and keeping it off is not depriving your body, it's managing your portions and getting enough exercise. Carbs are one of the body's most essential requirements. Why avoid them?
     
  17. green faerie

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    well....i did lose 4 lbs. but i've been on a week long binge so now its all back plus about 2 lbs, so ultimately it was a failure as far as weight loss. if i deprive myself i tend to binge like crazy afterwards.
     
  18. treehuggerT

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    Almost everyone gains the weight back after Atkins. It's all water. Losing 4 pounds a week is not reasonable, if it's all fat. Have you read the book "Skinny Bitch"? A much more sensible approach to weight loss that is healthy and sustainable for a lifetime.

    BTW-I tried Atkins once, years ago, and felt like crap. I had no energy and felt a bit sick all the time. Bleh!
     
  19. green faerie

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    yea, i've been trying to use that diet recently. sugar has been my hangup though.
     
  20. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    greenfairie, go to sparkpeople.com, look up truepeacenik (use that as your referral if you join, please) and follow to the veg/vegan communities.
    Spark is a pretty inclusive (aside from having to figure out doing no dairy) food and exercise tracker and community support system that translates to a lifestyle over a "diet."

    that said, there was a book at Tattered Cover on a vegetarian low-carb diet, but I was less than impressed with a quick reading in store.
     

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