Was I raped? Or just toally used?

#5 isn't actually right anymore, since 1976 the "marital rape exemption" was done away with, and a woman can be raped by her husband and can prosecute him for it.

 

Being that you consented, drunk or not , it isn't rape. You are just mad at yourself for making a dumb choice that you now regret.

 

you guys aren't very familiar with the law.

 

If you are gona play the "drunk" card then you would be unfamiliar with the law.

 

So, bug just cause she was drinking its her fault..
btw, didnt read the thread...just asking a question..

 

bugman, that comment made absolutely no sense.

but anyway, as i said in my other post, there's a difference between a bit "drunk" and "throwing up and passing out."

i can tell that you, and many people in this thread, don't care about that though, so that's all i'm going to say about it.

 

I do believe Suprnova has it right here. The law specifically says "If intercourse occurs when a participant is unable to give consent due to drug or alcohol intoxication, or due to mental incapacity, the act is rape."

No ifs, ands, or buts...

 

Take some responsibility for your own actions, people! Not only should the rapist be held accountable for his actions but the chick who decided to get blasted at a strangers house with strange men should atleast think things through before hand.



Are we talking passed out or are we talking coherently drunk here? There is a difference according to the laws, I agree.

 

No. It would be her fault for being in that situation in the first place. Not her fault for being raped, if that is the case.

 

here is what she said, first line:
"Okay I got so drunk I was barfing and passed out at some dudes house..."

that's not just a little tipsy. and you know what? i'm pretty sure she's learned from the experience and won't be drinking around people she can't trust 100% anymore. but in NO WAY does her getting drunk one night entitle someone to violate her just because she was intoxicated. that is just ludicrous and horrible.

 

This thread has been so all over the map that I forgot the premise of the story.

Bottom line, getting drunk and making bad decisions is not an excuse.
Getting drunk and passing out and having someone else make that decision for you is rape. It's that simple.

 

If you aren't sure or are too embarassed to bring the law into this and press charges, well...


You got family right... brothers are best, dad, uncles, close family friends, etc

I personally don't know a guy that wouldn't flip if this happened to a member of his family, 'cept maybe Blah, Small Brown, and Bug Man

 

I got my tests results and everything is negative, except I got an abnormal pap smear which means my cervix is irritated and inflamed for some reason, but there is no cancerous or hpv cells. She said it could be caused by tampons, sex, or an untreated yeast infection. I think it's the last one, I don't know. But now I have to go back and get another evil pap smear in three months, she said usually the body heals this itself. So, I guess it's not a big deal.

My friend Stephani saw the guy who "raped" me at Wal-mart and she flicked him off, and she said he just smiled at her. What the fuck, what an asshole, right?

 

that happened to me on my pap smear test too. I had to go back in months. DOn't worry, the body really does heal itself. Actually, for those three months, my mind wouldn't rest and I was so worried. My poor boyfriend started to think that there was something wrong with him (I didn't tell him about my test result). It was my first one and it came back negative so I was totally bummed.

3 months later though, my test was positive. I was so relieved! My boyfriend was nicely surprised too.

Don't worry.

 

You were totally used. Go get yourself checked out and until you do expect the worst.

 

I'll tell you what makes it rape



1. he knew she was drunk as shit

2. after the fact, he lied. he said they didn't have sex. that means that not only does he know that she was too drunk to remember but also that he feels the need to cover it up cause he knows it was wrong

3. when her friend flicked him off, he smiled. He smiled because he feels like he got away with something. Cause he did.......rape

 

Alright lets reveiw the facts, She was very drunk, she doesnt remember much, She was NOT passed out when this occured, her freind watched her fuck him and said that she seemed like she wanted to do it, she was participating, now for the questions, was the guy drunk or drugged? was the guy present when she was throwing up? who put moves on who? There are way to many questions in this story to make a decision like he raped her, press charges. If this guy was strait and he was the agressor than yes this was wrong, and yes that guy is twisted, but i do not think this was the case at all, her freind was there watching saying she was into it. In all there are way too many holes in the story to lay the term rape on somone. And yes it is your fault that this happened. You drank way too much and you fucked somone that you regreted later. I mean come on when i get real drunk and fuck somone that i wouldnt have wanted to strait i dont say that they raped me! I just try to keep it on the lowdown and jus forget my dumb mistake and not repeat it. If she were to go and press charges chances are they would go nowhere, but it would still be investigated, if i were to press charges on a gurl becuase i fucked her while i was drunk and didnt want to they would laugh in my face. And one last thing, A man can most definatly get a hard on while extrememly drunk....trust me.....and a man can definatly still get off.
Hope you smarten up a bit midnight

 

Oh my god what a load of new-agey, spacey psychobabble crap!
"Every person at that party was an engineer to this tragic event"?! What an absurd, hyperbolic statement. The only people involved in her having this sex were HIM and HER. And the shit about HIM being "to blame for this" to the exclusion of adding "HER" is disgusting. If she was not being force-fed alcohol, and she was not drugged unwittingly, then she is responsible for knowing that if she imbibes enough alcohol, it can help lead her to where she either makes a bad decision for herself, or gets into a position of being powerless to direct her own destiny (i.e. passes out and gets fucked while so drunk she doesn't remember IF she gave consent or not). Waking up not remembering what happened is not the same as waking up and remembering that you said NO to sex and it was forced upon you. She doesn't even have recollection of the night's events. She can't say with confidence that she did not, at the time, go along willingly with this guy to have sex.

But really, this crap you're shoveling about how everyone around them is culpable for this "tragedy"... ("Tragedy"?? Give me a break! No rape is known to have taken place, here.) If there were 40 other people at this party, what are they supposed to have been responsible for in terms of stopping her from being "victimized"? So they were at the same place, drinking themselves, possibly hooking up themselves... If they aren't the ones who fucked her, they aren't responsible for what happened. And even the people who hosted the party are not responsible, because just the act of providing a place for a party, and even the alcohol, does not mean that you should expect everyone to drink til they're out of control, or take advantage of a drunk girl, because people can drink and still manage to not go out of their minds because of it. You're offering this Hillary Clinton "it takes a village" bullshit when it ends up being so much touchy-feely nonsense. What about people in a bar? They're all drinking, and let's say person A is drinking, but not so much that he's drunk, and he stops drinking and sobers up and then drives home. Person B drinks, at a totally separate table in a totally separate group, gets into his car still wasted, and drives drunk and kills someone on the road. Person A "helped engineer that tragedy?" How so? So how is this different from any other person who was at this party but had no hand in how much she had to drink or who she got fucked by?

I totally reject all the shit you had to say about how the man is the one "tested" when both a man and a woman are drunk and have sex. That would apply ONLY if the man were conscious and the woman unconscious and he had sex with her anyway. There's no question that that's unconsentual. But this "test" bullshit? Why isn't it the woman who failed the test by not remaining sober enough to control herself? Your position is vaguely sexist, in that it removes from the woman all responsibility for what happens to her, and puts it all on the man, who gets to be the only decider of what they will do together. You leave it all up to him. If I were a woman, I'd be pissed off at your characterization of that.

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey

 

That's an ignorant, fuckin' moronic "suggestion."

I presume you are talking about having the guy beat up, maybe even maimed or killed?

First of all, this girl got herself fuckin' stone drunk, like a lot of little teenieboppers who think alcoholic intoxication is soooo cool, the mark of distinction of a real cool chick who's sophisticated and fun, the life of the party and a real socialite.

She made a fool's decision to get herself that drunk, and then the situation worsened for her because she found a fool of a guy who also had no judgment, and they fucked. If she had told us that she knew what happened, and knew that she had protested the sex, that would be different. That would mean it was rape. But as things stand, she can't even say with conviction that she knows she did not consent to the sex.

But you, coming in here and implying that she should have her male acquaintances give him his "comeuppance" in the form of brutality, you're just being stupid and you're certainly not doing her any favors.

Let's say he gets worked over, and the police catch the guys who did it, afterwards. And they link him back to her, and now she's gonna be charged with conspiracy ("hiring" these guys to harm him).

And all for something that she essentially brought upon herself. Your advice is brainless, really for shit.

And if she is too cowardly to involve actual authorities on this, if she truly feels she was raped (and how raped could she really feel if she came to discuss this on Hipforums as her outlet?) then siccing her male acquaintances on the guy is even more cowardly. Would she have them do it to him, beat him up, without saying why it happened? How would that be justice? He'd never even know it was for a certain "crime." And if she had them say, "This is for fucking the dumb drunk unconscious bitch," then he'd know what to tell the police about why he was beaten, and they'd arrest her and the assailants.

I hope she doesn't listen to advice as stupid as yours.

-Jeffrey

 

You better check back with your doctor.

When they test for something and the results are "negative" that's GOOD. It means "negative, you don't have this or that."

When they test for something and the results are "positive," that's BAD. It means that they found something!

HIV Positive, for instance, means YES, the virus was found in the test sample. HIV Negative means NO HIV.

As I said, make sure you got the GOOD news from your doctor.

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey