Can you prove that God exists?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by MeAgain, May 29, 2004.

  1. isness

    isness Member

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    Conceptualizing the unknown and then clinging to the idea of it being true or false. This is what we have become as thinkers in a world full of suffering. We think ourselves into a mess, arguing our beliefs we "know" are right, but our minds know are a belief. We give excuses for all that we do or say so that we will not be proved wrong, but we are not aware that we are backing a completely self-manufactured notion, and that we could not possibly know if it is true or not. We say "true" but we are lying when we use the word, for truth is not an interpretation. Truth transends all interpretation, truth is the isness, the essence of the entire universe. Truth cannot be seen, smelled, or touched in its entirety, for we cannot percieve all that is. We can only percieve from our perspective in the universe. If we really knew all that is, we could not be content, we would have no reason to live. We "know" what we think we know, and we cannot be content with this either. Happiness is to see all exactly how it is, to know that you do not know, and go from there. Do not desire to know, because then you will distort your perceptions to try and fulfill your desire. Do not desire to not know, because then your perceptions will float in a void of uncertainty. You think you know God when you believe you know everything. You really know God when you know you know nothing.
     
  2. littleskinny

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    That is dogmatic agnosticism
     
  3. isness

    isness Member

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    label all you want. no labels, no confusion.
     
  4. littleskinny

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    no discussion either. how convenient
     
  5. isness

    isness Member

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    Zutino!!!!!
     
  6. littleskinny

    littleskinny Member

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    pardon my labelling but that's a deflection
     
  7. isness

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    i see you god, you are my mind, you are the trees, you are the fire, you are this fly buzzing in my ear, you are right, you are wrong, you are, you, I, God, Zutino!
     
  8. Liberation

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    pardon me while i burst into flamessssssssssssssssssssssss heh
    well i can prove it
    but can you?
    peace
     
  9. underground04

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    ahh, prove that god dosent exist you should. prove anyones personal idea of who and what god is you cannot.
     
  10. chicken neck

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    stinking god!
    thats just a word that means everything that exists.
    you goofballs are asking whether theres stuff that exists that you aint sure about and calling that god. either way he dont care.
     
  11. isness

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    True, how could the vastness of the universe possibly care about the tiny spec of human existance. God sees through our eyes, the oneness that is without time.
     
  12. TheChaosFactor

    TheChaosFactor Senior Member

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    God is supposed to be infallable, yes? In the Bible there are stories of God exhibiting wrath and pride. God is simply the face of hope and desperation for immortality in the hearts of people, and because people don't like what they don't know 'He' is used as a way to justify what is sometimes unexplainable.
     
  13. maryjaneguitargurl

    maryjaneguitargurl I am just like you.

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    Yes I can. Go to a chicken coop in south Texas. God lives there.


    peace
    chickens
     
  14. Maelstrom

    Maelstrom Banned

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    The simple fact is that there is no empirical, objective proof of a supreme deity's existence.
     
  15. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Only the people who think there is no god need proof.
     
  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Jeez, not many left people from this thread.
     
  17. AmyBeachGirl

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    I like your thinking
     
  18. bird_migration

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    You already say that God does not exist by giving him 'supreme goodness'.
    If an omnipotent God exist who is pure good, why does 'evil' exist?
    (Unless you do not consider rape and murder and the likes evil ofcourse).
     
  19. Maelstrom

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    If God does not exist, neither does his extreme opposite Satan. Therefore, evil derives itself from man's intentions rather than a supernatural scapegoat.
     
  20. bird_migration

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    No, evil is a human invention, not a natural or supernatural truth.
     

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