An ounce of leaf. simple question.

Say I wanted to make some brownies with an ounce of good quality leaf.
How many doses, or how many people could get high if I made these brownies?

 

Well, lets break it down like this.

For every ounce of leaf material, you can get 1-2g of hash.

To make quality brownies, you need at least a 1/4-1/2 oz of bud.

You need a lot more leaf, or add some bud in with it, otherwise, not much of a high coming your way,.

 

You have to extract the THC. I dont think you can get high if you just put the bud in because the THC is what gets you high. Make sure you remove all seeds, then maybe get some high proof (190 proof) alcohol. You will need once ounce of weed for every pint of alcohol or a half gram for every ounce of alcohol. Some goods to use would be Everclear, 151 Rum, or White Lightning because of there high proof. You want an alcohol with 95% ethanol, or a 190-proof alcohol to obtain the best results. The night before you plan on making this leave your bud in the freezer so you completely dry it out. It might be a good idea to put the ethanol in the freezer as well. When your bud has been in the freezer be sure to grind it up to almost a powder and then mix it together with ethanol in a glass quart mixing jar. Close the jar and shake for 5 minutes and then return it to the freezer. Kepp on agitating the mixture every few hours with refreezing. Keep doing this process anywhere from 3 days or 9 weeks to make them really good. Remember, the longer the better (after 3 days it will be pretty potent, so don't feel bad). When you are done with that process, pour the liquid through cheesecloth. You can save the “ball” of cheesecloth for topical use, or run it through a coffee filter. Make sure to squeeze any remaining liquid out. The color of your final product is dependent on what percent ethanol you used. If you used a 95% ethanol solution, your tincture should be pale green to golden. If you used 151 rum, it should be an amber color. If your tincture is a dark green that means excess plant material is present. It wont affect the potency it just means it won’t taste very good.

 

ghost of rat your 2 posts away from 420. time for a bowl

 

Just make some Bhang.

 

My friend makes pot cookies all the time. Make a regular batch of cookie dough and add the super chopped leaves.

 

^^^that does not work my man. at least it didn't when i tried. i put a good amount of chopped leaves (maybe an ounce at least a half) into brownie mix when i was younger and it barely caught us a buzz.


you have to do what that girl above you said, extract the THC into a polar or hydrophobic (scared of water) solvent like alcohol or more often butter or oil (fat). THC is fat soluble and stored in fat cells in the body, so in order to get it out of the plant matter, you need to ignite it or extract it into something polar.

i'd recommend SLOW cooking it over LOW heat in butter on a double boiler; which is like a pot of boiling water underneath the pan that you're simmering the bud (or leaves) in.

and shit, to answer your original question; i think an oz. of nice leaves should be enough for 3-4 people to get a small buzz, that is if you make the brownies correctly.

 

....my friend is having me <i mean another friend of this dude i know..> sell the leaves from this plant he grew for like $15-20/quarter (oz). it's sweet; i mean we are gonna make like $100 to split from fucking leaves! ha!
they DO catch you a buzz, but they ARE leaves. at least i'm being honest about it tho; i'm telling everyone that it's just leaf, and the buzz is not quite like bud, and even letting them sample it if they want. and if they still buy it...fuckin A right for me!!

 

anyone who claims to have eaten marijuana added in its plant form and gotten little to no effect just hasn't eaten enough. it certainly works. if i grind about 1.5-2.5g of some decent middies and add it to the dough for one or two cookies i get fuckin STONED. and in fact it doesnt need to be heated at all - the two most common myths about consuming cannabis orally are that it needs to be extracted in fat/alcohol first, or that heat somehow "activates" the THC making it psychoactive when consumed orally. both are completely 100% bogus claims, and if you have failed to get effects it is because either your stuff was lower quality than you realized, you didnt eat enough, or your tolerance was higher than you realized.

but so long as you eat the stuff in its entirety and you take the appropriate dose, you'll get high.


for hours, too. im not talking "a little high," i'm talking almost nodding off, at its strongest point.

it takes a larger initial dose than a normal initial dose when smoking, but it lasts far longer.

i've had great success both with ground whole bud and with butter/fat extractions. i've even eaten a peanut butter and honey sandwich with 2g of ground middies mixed in [side note: not THAT was nasty! the texture was awfully unpleasant and difficult to eat. however, mixed in with cookies its actually pretty tasty] before going to catch a plane, and it got me so fucking high i was actually hoping to fall asleep because i was paranoid about getting searched cause i felt so high i figured i looked really high. I didnt have anything on me and realized it, but i really didnt want to go through the hassle.

but it is completely fine to eat raw marijuana (ground is best) in its plant form. it needs neither extraction nor heating. the advantage of extraction is for dishes which can tolerate the flavor of marijuana but not the texture, or for people who simply find the texture of ground, dried marijuana mixed into their cookies unpleasant. it can make for a more homogenous food. it does not get more of the THC to you, and in fact will rarely extract 100% of the THC anyway, and straining off the solids may in fact slightly lower the amount of THC you ingest. when you eat ground, raw, dried marijuana you ingest 100% of the THC - nothing lost to heat, to incomplete extraction....just pure goodness.

i used to believe both these myths as they are very widespread and often mentioned. but i also kept hearing the opposite every once in a while. the first time i made brownies it worked so well i passed out for 6 hours, and i just tossed "two joints" worth of ground pot into the corner of a pan of brownies. i cut out the cannabinated brownie for myself and left the rest of the pan normal. so i have known for a while that you dont need to extract the pot to eat it and get a good effect. i knew it was strong!

just recently i've been hearing about people grinding their weed and encapsulating it in empty gelcaps like you can get at herbal/organic foods/GNC type places and eating them and getting good effects. iirc a few years ago i made a post asking if this could be done - i didnt try because the general consensus was "no, marijuana needs to be heated before you can eat it"

very recently (like two weeks ago i think?) i made a sandwich with raw weed. it was ungodly disgusting compared to brownies or cookies, but it kicked my ass regardless. seriously, try making the pills or something. 2g or so of smokable quality cannabis ground and put in capsules or cookies, and tell me you dont get high

 

for the record i have no experience with cooking with leaves. everything in my above post is in reference to usind buds, usually mid-grade pot

 

40oz- your right!..but if I wasnt all out id light up one right now
Anyhow I know that to make brownies you have to extract the thc using fat-butter.
I thought it was a simple enough question, il ask again... If I make some brownies using one ounce of leaf- approxamitely how many times could I get high?

 

no. you don't. extraction is entirely unnecessary. the only benefits are a more normal texture and a prettier brownie. it doesnt get you higher to extract the THC - it will be absorbed and metabolized either way.

its hard to say without first knowing the quality of the materials and your tolerance. fwiw when using bud i personally usually go for between 1.5-2g, so i'd say a good bet is to take at least double that for leaf, given your tolerance is anything like mine and the marijauna is about the same quality.

 

As I said before I have good quality leaf. I also have low tolearance, but I am realy just asking for a rough estimate. As for extracting the thc- maybe its not entirley necessary but it is certainly a basic procedure in making brownies.
I am thinking of making some brownies and then bringing them to a party, so I am trying to work out if its worth while- economicaly- how many people I could give brownies to in realtion to how much I pay for the cannabis.

So nesta. 2g's seems to be a common dosage for eating bud. If an ounce has 28g's, and I would need to use at least 4g's of leaf per high, then that means an ounce of leaf could feed roughly 7 people.

 

common procedure and basic procedure are different. most people use butter that has been cooking with marijuana in it but with the marijuana itself removed. this is because they think they have to. it didnt used to be the standard way of doing it and not only is it "not entirely necessary" it is in fact entirely UNNECESSARY, and simply a matter of personal taste.

its most common to not leave the plant matter in. its most basic to just toss ground pot into the brownie mix - least labor intensive and you're garaunteed not to lose any THC in the extraction process

i'd say 4g of leaf per person would be a good estimate in my mind, but i would never say this is the best choice or you should go ahead and count on it being a good dose. its easy to both under- and over-dose yourself or others with orally consumed cannabis, and both are a real let down. either you feel little to nothing because you didnt get enough, or you're so high you pass out and aren't conscious to enjoy the high.

i'd say its not a good idea unless you make a large enough batch to have enough to experiment with on your own before letting others eat them.

 

i know you said that, and i dont mean to sound like an ass, i'm just very anal about how i word what i say on here. i just try to be as clear as possible about my meaning since so much of what we generalize about leads people to interpret things differently, and faulty interpretations make the original information faulty. when dealing with drugs it can be particularly risky if someone gets the wrong idea about something.

basically what you consider "good" quality might not be the same as what i think of as "good" quality, so simply calling the pot you have "good" means absolutely nothing to me until i get to smoke it and find out for myself. even looks can be deceiving - i've had bud that looked like grade a shit but when smoked was mid-grade at best. and sometimes i find myself disappointed at some pot i've bought, but the person i am smoking with remarks "hey, this is some good shit."

so while i dont doubt that you know how good it is, i can't take it for granted that we're talking about the same level of stuff when you say it's good quality.

thats why i specify that i can't really say for sure and try to warn that any estimates about dosage i make are by NO means a good bet without you experimenting on your own a bit first. it is usually best for you to learn for yourself by experimentation.

 

Thats cool nesta, I know no one can give me exact information, but you have been the most help. I really was just looking for a rough estimate. I think we can come to the conclusion, If 4g's is a good estimate, that an ounce can feed about 6 or 7 people.
I say 6 or 7 because people often drink at parties which kind of takes over the high.
But I would certainly test the end product myself first before offering it to people.
As for making the brownies- I would definatley leave the cannabis in the butter for maximum effect, also I quite like the tast of cannabis.

 

^sorry dude didnt see that before,- yeah I thought it would make less than 6 or seven highs. I dont know how much I can buy an ounce for, but my dealer is a nice guy, he grows and always hooks me up with a good deal, but I would not buy an ounce for 60, thats way overpriced for leaf.

 

its cool. the thing is that the reason extractions would be more reliable would be that a larger portion of the active ingredients are available all at once.

its like swallowing ground up pills instead of whole ones or the less enjoyable practice of chewing up pills before swallowing. the more available the active ingredient is, the quicker it will be absorbed and effects will be felt. getting it all at once tends to make it hit harder.

but the fact remains that ground cannabis is incredibly active orally on a light stomach with minimal preparation. if extracting it into something else were to be more effective, it would have to rely on that extract being the smallest amount you can make with the material (highly concentrated) with as little nonpsychoactive material to digest and metabolize alongside the drugs.

if you make butter, oil, or the so-called "green dragon" with cannabis, simpler foods (like buttered bread or shots of green dragon) will be most effective because it offers the most THC upfront. mixing into other foodstuffs means you have more junk going in with the THC, and it should not be significantly more effective than just tossing the ground bud into the mix.

i just have had mixed results using either method, and have honestly found simplification the best and most reliable means of making cannabinated foods. no messing around, no loss of the magic, just bud and food. it works great and i've found a dosage range that tends to serve me well, and while its by no means an everyday way to ingest cannabis it has quickly become one of my favorites due to the more quasi-narcotic high it brings on.

basically i figure extraction is unnecessary and just adds extra steps to the process without very significant benefits beyond the texture and flavor of the resulting foods. as i find chocolate chip cookies with some bud tossed in to have a rather pleasant flavor only slightly inferior to normal cookies, and as the texture of the cannabis within does not particularly bother me (the peanut butter sandwhich is another story!) there is no reason, in my mind, to do it any other way.

certainly extraction IS effective if done properly, and i have no problem with the practice. i simply wish to spread the information that was essentially lost to a large portion of the cannabis-enthused community: that extraction or heating are in no way NEEDED for consumption of cannabis, that it is definitely VERY active when eaten in its raw, natural form.

like i said, i dont mean to sound like a pompous ass or anything, i just try to be as specific as i can while being as true to "reality" as i can - like everyone else i'm prone to being misinformed, and this is a bit of misinformation people get all the time that i'd like to try to dispel.

you know...i just finished a damn good cigar and a few beers and read a good article in a magazine i picked up at the store today (don't usually buy magazines...its a rare treat) and i think it might just be time for me to pack a bowl or a bong and take a nice few rips of the goodness....