1st timer doing Salvia alone?

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by jdogsc, Sep 11, 2007.

  1. jdogsc

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    Is it possible or recommended to do Salvia Divinorum alone or your first time? I don't want to do it to act silly or get really high. I want a calm, mystical experience using Salvia. Could I do this alone being a 1st timer? Is there anything I could do to make my surroundings/settings pleasent for this experience? I would appreciate any feedback on this.

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  2. NexxuS

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    doing it by yourself is actuly perfect if you want to have a calm trip. From experince the more people and the more noise the worse your trip is. Just find a quite spot outside and youll be set.
     
  3. jdogsc

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    What about doing it inside? I'm quite comfortable in my bedroom, I'm usually at ease in there. What about how I should intake the salvia: smoke, chew, drink as tea?
     
  4. NexxuS

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    your room should be fine then.
    smoking its the best. i would use a bubbler or bong. if not just use a bowl.
     
  5. jdogsc

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    Thanks for you help. I've used lsd, ecstasy and shrooms before, although not recently and I really want to experience Salvia but in a more serious, relaxed way.
     
  6. NexxuS

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    its a cool drug to atleast try once.
    also make shure your in a soft couch or chair and that its really cold in the room.
     
  7. jdogsc

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    What would be a safe amount to consume while alone? I read about the different levels of dosages, levels 1 thru 6 (or is it 7?). How do you measure how much salvia will get you to a safe level?

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  8. Ynef

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    I don't think it can be measured like this but when you take 1 huge hit from a 10x extract and hold it down for 15-20 seconds then it will be great for a first time experience, especially when you're doing it alone. Don't forget to keep constant fire on the bowl as you suck it all in.
     
  9. lunnyonthegrass

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    why should it be cold?
     
  10. jdogsc

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    I heard that you sweat heavily from an intake of salvia divinorum so probably that's why it's best to be cool.
     
  11. Ynef

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    lol... i prefer it to be warm because i always get covered in COLD sweat :p
     
  12. jdogsc

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    What do you think would be the appopriate level of salvia to smoke while doing this alone, 10X, 15X or 20X? How can you measure it so that you don't oversmoke or undersmoke the appropriate amount of salvia?
     
  13. nesta

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    thats wierd, i haven't noticed the sweating before. have noticed a (perceived) rise in body temp with DPT, MDMA, mushrooms, acid, 2C-E and other things before which is why i usually do them alone or (if i'm with someone) a lover so i can comfortably just take off whatever clothing i chose. when tripping i usually prefer to be nude or nearly nude.

    but i've not noticed it with salvia. of course, salvia is very shortlived and overwhelming, so if i do enough to have an actual strong trip then i am nearly completely out of touch with my body and wouldnt notice sweating even if it did occur.

    now i prefer salvia alone, personally. the less distractions the more smoothly it goes, but for me a "calm" salvia trip is almost an oxymoron - its a shaking experience even when its a good one.

    that said people can and do sometimes freak out a little and act wierd, and having someone to take care of you could be a good idea, if youre in a less than absolutely ideal setting. that said the only time i freaked out was when the TV was on and i was with a friend and left my eyes open and everything....he calmed me down, but if all that external distraction had not been there i would not have acted out. i might have gotten scared or uneasy, but i'd be laying down with my eyes closed...it passes quickly enough that even if its a really rocky trip, you should be fine by yourself as long as you aren't in a situation where you could get hurt if you freak out (be smart, have the lights, tv, and stereo off, lay down somewhere comfy, just relax as much as you can)
     
  14. jdogsc

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    So having the TV on would be that much of a distraction? So is it better to have a completely quiet setting for this experience alone?
     
  15. nesta

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    if you do enough to have the full experience, yes, a television would PROBABLY be a really bad idea. for instance, while a rather experienced tripper even at the time, the one experience with psychedelics where i really freaked out was with salvia. i was watching a sci-fi movie called the fifth element with my pot supplier at the time (he's now in the army) and i took a big rip of some salvia extract on my bong.

    it just so happened the movie got to a point with a lot of flying police cars and sirens and a chase scene right after the salvia took hold. on a salvia trip, EVERYTHING, no matter how ordinary and commonplace seems frightfully alien. the only thing that resembles making sensible reality are the realms the substance exposes to you through closed eye visuals - your world will be completely different from everyday reality, very odd and alien, but it will be easier to cope with than the twisted and alien version of waking life if you keep your eyes open during the trip. the noise and commotion from the telivision spooked me, as well as being completely disoriented and my surroundings (my own living room, for chrissakes) being completely foreign and wierd. the television began talking to me and the image was replaced with that of an authority figure - i got the impression of it being my father, but at the time i couldnt even tell you who my father was, or what the word father meant for that matter.

    i got up off the couch and stumbled around a bit, completely disoriented. i reached for the one thing in the room i recognized enough to make sense to me, and while i didnt think things through i can explain how my subconscious was working at the time: i was reaching out for the one thing that, to me at the time, represented me and the identity i recognize as being me, i reached for something familiar to hold on to; everything was changing so drastically and quickly and i was scared i'd been sucked into some sort of psychedelic quicksand to make a metaphor of it...that i was being taken into this new existance from which i might never return. i grabbed onto something that reminded me of what little i remembered of the self i was 5 minutes prior.....

    i grabbed my expensive 14" glass bong, stumbling around, completely disoriented

    luckily my friend started talking to me, asking if i was ok and trying to calm me down, he sat me down and told me to put down the bong before i broke it. soon enough it passed and i gathered my wits about me, i eventually regained my faculties though i was quite shaken from the strange experience.

    another friend of mine was watching a game show late at night and hit some salvia. the only light in the room came from her small tv, and she "became" the show, which took on very sinister and frightening overtones. her experience sounds less drastic than mine, but she was also in a more relaxed environment (a game show laying down in a dark room is better than shouting and sirens and flashing lights)

    tv can be a really bad idea, as is opening your eyes. if you have a full blown trip with eyes closed, you travel to foreign realms....

    if you have a full blown trip with opened eyes, your surroundings take on very bizarre, alien, unrecognizable qualities, and you can become quite afraid.

    either way can be frightening or unnerving, but the best bet is to just lay down in a dark, quiet place.
     
  16. jdogsc

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    Where is the best to purchase this online? I found one vendor,

    Salvia Dragon http://salviadragon.com/buysalvia.htm

    Has anyone purchased salvia from here? Any suggestions as to which is the best place to obtain Salvia?
     
  17. Autobot

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    Cold is good, yes it raise your body temp heavily.
    I was alone the first time i did it and took two BIG hits of 20x.
    Mistake for a first time even though I have done many psycadelics (used to to do acid and X heavily). I had i good time, but was extremely confused. Thankfully the "trip" does not last extremely long. However, as short as the trip is, it is one serious psycadelic.

    5x, 10x, 20x, does not matter.
    Yes, one is more potent then the other, however it is all how you dose.
    Obviously the stronger, the less you will dose.
    For a first time, if you try 20x, I suggest a small pinch. You will think it is not enough, but if you are a "light weight" it will be. Take a toke, hold it in, sit back, relax. Then if you can take more, then take more. Keep in mind, the larger the hit(s) do not mean the longer the trip, it means the more intense.
    So experiment with the amountto find out what you personally can handle.

    As far as alone goes, I suppose that is an opinion.
    I suggest for "safety reason" to have a buddy.
    However, it is not a "party" drug.
    Whatever you choose, remember the high does not last long.

    More importantly DO NOT try and drive or anything else.
    Just be at home in a relaxed enviroment.

    Happy toking:D
     
  18. jdogsc

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    Would having a black light on be good for a Salvia trip?
     
  19. Autobot

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    I wouldn't see why not.
    Never tried it
     
  20. lunnyonthegrass

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    dude not on the first time because you wont know how to handle it, even the second time i did it, i had the black light on and man, i couldnt control myself, couldnt tell where the floor was at or if I was even standing or sitting. for me, i liked the trip, but its probably not for everyone. my friend took a toke of it and he was scared out of fucking mind, he started screaming!!! so be careful bro.
     

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