The most evil fuckin jay that i ever sawed

well it was a nice night. moon ahigh in the sky, music ready to be played etc etc.

me and a friend smoked a joint (both without tobacco) each then headed up to his place to chill out...then later in the night we went to the river for a pipe toking.

so thus far consumption for me was a joint and about three pipes...which for me is enough to be very very high.

so on our way back from the river we see a friend of ours who isnt high t all so we go roll another joint to share (with the same weed we had smoked earlier)...except this time with tobacco cos our friend prefers joints that way.

after 2 draws of the jay with spin i go from the normal amazing feeling of being high to a dizzy and sick mess. i couldnt stay standing and i got really sick.

how very odd....

any ideas anyone? why did the spun spliff of hell almost kill me?

 

Yeah......don't put tobacco in your weed.

 

Word ^^^

 

definitely ^^^

 

Yeah tobacco usually makes me nauseous... no good no good

 

yep it was the tobacco.

 

for sure. my guess is you aren't a hardcore cigarette smoker, though even when i used to smoke a pack and a half, two packs a day i still didnt like tobacco in my joints cause it made me feel lousy.

i want to hold my hit for at least a couple seconds. if you smoke a cigarette though, you dont hold it at all, you inhale and IMMEDIATELY exhale...at least i do...and especially now that i smoke cigars almost exclusively i'm no longer used to getting so much nicotine soooooo quickly, and it has gone from making me dizzy if i smoke a joint with tobacco to making me feel sick again. i prefer just straight ganj...if you do put tobacco in a joint, its gotta be the bare minimum.

the one exception i make to not smoking tobacco with my pot is the rare occasion on which i smoke a blunt.

 

You inhaled tobacco....hmmm

 

tobacco is the best ! you only felt that way because it was your first time (im assuming or one of the first times you've tried it) mixing tobacco with weed is great

 

i hate mixing it. i've mixed tobacco with my pot MANY MANY times, even tried doing it and getting used to it....but no, its just shit. tastes bad, makes you feel bad. people say it stretches your weed but it really doesnt, and its just all around bullshit that people think they need to add it to their pot.

if people like it, fine, but i and the vast majority of people i know fucking HATE tobacco mixed in pot, and its not just because we dont have experience. me and my friends have done it many times both willingly on our own and because thats how the person who was sharing rolled...and it just never gets better. less bad, perhaps, but never better, so far.

its not something worth getting used to. ESPECIALLY if you dont already smoke cigs

 

I've used tobacco many times in my joints, sometimes its fine other times I feel like shit for the rest of the day. Just depends on the amount you add.. weed/tobacco ratio should be 3weed/1tobacco at the most. Now I don't use it at all, just smoke cigs. I gotta agree with nesta, it taste like shit unfiltered with weed.

 

ive done it heaps of times actually. but ive never done it when im already really stoned.

 

Not going to go onto my usual rant of how i prefer baccy in spliffs or anything but.
Baccy + weed = nicer smoke than pure weed joint (IMO)

 

I can't stand tobacco at all (though a bit better nowadays) so I prefer to smoke my weed pure.

Besides, with a pipe without tobacco it's a much more intense high in the mental level. For me at least.

 

I usually just roll pure joints, but I rolls spliffs if there are a lot of people because then I can roll twice as many.