Mark David Chapman

Discussion in 'Rock 'n' Roll' started by Nishie, Jul 4, 2006.

  1. Nishie

    Nishie Member

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    Man, I think we should release this guy from prison. Prison is a safe haven for him. He is kept away from all the other prisoners and Lennon fans. This is no punishment, its a resort. This man kills a legend, and is kept away from his punishment. Lennon was a genius both musically and philosophically yet he was killed by some pyscho. Although I do beleive he was brainwashed, like Sirhan Sirhan. Its hard to place blame here, even though he claimed responsiblity, Just like Sirhan he was obsessive over his target, acting normal until triggered by something. Im sorry for merging both into one article but they kinda flow together.
     
  2. short-man420

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    i agree, he deserves all that would come to him if the general public were to get their hands on him.

    but remember, lennon was a non-violent type of guy, if he himself were alive he would probably forgive Chapman for doing what he did
     
  3. Nalencer

    Nalencer Dig Yourself

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    Chapman was brainwashed. I love John Lennon, always have. But I have no problem with Chapman. He wouldn't have done it if he hadn't been forced into it. From what I've read, which was his own words, he didn't want to. He tried to fight it, but the programming won out in the end. John wouldn't have wanted him killed, and anyone who would kill him is insulting John Lennon by calling themselves fan.
     
  4. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    so exactly WHO brain washed the nut?
     
  5. seancourt

    seancourt Free Your Mind

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    Prison is a punishment, thats no way to live your life at all. Being locked in a cage with no freedom at all, lovked away like a dog, it's what he deserves. If people who wanted him dead got a hold of him, they'd just kill him, which is the short and easy way out. I'd much rather see him suffer and die away in prison.
     
  6. shockseventyfour

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    errr Lennon wasn't always a non-violent type of guy but Mark Chapman was crazy and happened to kill someone who was extremely famous. He should be treated like anyone else who was crazy and killed somebody.
     
  7. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    ok, so you think its right for mark david chapman to be released to the streets and have some crazed lennon fan blow his brains out?? okay....... isnt that against everything john lennon stood for?? and against your hippie idealistic ways??
     
  8. wiccan_witch

    wiccan_witch Senior Member

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    HAHAHAHA!!
    It cracks me up these people who seriously think these things about John Lennon. He WAS violent, he used to beat the living shit out of his first wife and there are rumblings about what he did to Yoko too. Many people were on the recieving end of Johns violence wether it was deserved or not.
    John Lennon was an AMAZING singer and songwriter and for that he is one of my heroes. But he was not the passive, gentle peaceloving Christ-like figure some fans (and even Lennon himself in later life) make him out to be. Give the guy a break! As he said himself 'I'm just a man'!
     
  9. lucyinthesky16

    lucyinthesky16 pirate wench

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    george harrison was quoted saying that we shouldnt take revenge on this man, that 'all things must pass' and that eventually he will get what's coming to him, without any help from us.
    this is why he's my fave, he was the REAL peacenik, not lennon. lennon beat his wives, this is true. he was also quoted saying that at one point he didnt really believe in what he was singing about.
    dont ever read a biography about your hero, it will depress the hell out of you...
     
  10. Puffis

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    I don't know waht to think of that man, he did afterall kill John Lennon, an activism icon and a music god, however I think he is insane, I don't wish an ill fate upon him, but I certainly would never do anything to help him in any way
     
  11. lovelyhippo

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    completly agree.
     
  12. kwal30

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    Can someone please explain the circumstances of this 'brainwashing' that chapman was put through? I'm not familiar with the whole situation.
     
  13. honey_pie

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    I can never forgive this man for what he did to Lennon. I don't know if John would forgive,but i'm not John,and its impossible for me to forgive a person that killed somebody,somebody that could be here between us until today,who knows?

    The best place for this sick man is the jail,not the death or the streets.
     
  14. steve-peace

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    wasn't there an interview or something were george harrison and yoko ono asked people not to say the killers name because it only brings him fame which is what he was after. so in respect to john, george and yoko please stop saying his name. rather refer to him as the killer or that asshole/s.o.b./bastard.

    oh and i think he should be kept in prison for the rest of his life.
     
  15. Joey*

    Joey* Freaky Supportr Dude

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    I think death is to good for that idiot.It was a huge loss when John was killed.I've got to say as contreversial as this might be with some,I'm aware there were times John had been violent this is true.I always looked at it as John like all of us had his faults and was sincere about changing his ways and that was a struggle at times for him as it can be for all of us.I feel sad when people throw stones at Lennon.I can understand people being angry at the unjust and cruel way this world is alot of the time.I've expirienced it first hand.I believe John was like any of us just trying to live his life the best he could and he made mistakes.Nobody's perfect not even someone with so much media attention as John.I'm a big fan and I can see his transition from a rock superstar to a more caring sensitive man concerned with doing some good in the world.He never claimed to be perfect and I would'nt think he'd want to be on any pedestol.
    *I remember that day,I woke up to the alarm clock radio like most days to get ready for school.There was crazyness coming over the airwaves and for a long time I did'nt know what happened.Finally I heard that John had been killed,of course I never knew him personally but it hit me real hard and it was the most miserable and deppressing day of school I ever had.
    I lean towards the conspiracy theory about John's death rather than the crazed lunatic theory.I just feel sad.Whenever I listen to John's music (espicially solo)I feel sad although I love his music.
    *As far as his killer he should rot in jail for the rest of his miserable existence,and if there are others also responsible in some way I believe it will come back to them."live by the sword,die by the sword",Things have a way of coming back,full circle.
    Anyway :) I saw this thread and had to put in my 2 cents.lol.
    These are just my thoughts on the matter.
    Best wishes to everyone,
    Joey,...*
     
  16. evil i 13

    evil i 13 Senior Member

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    It really wasn't really Chapman's fault. His only crime was being to vulnerable. the real murderers may never be known. It's my own personal opinion that the US gov't wanted lennon dead for his procommunist and views and used groups within sects within fundamentalist christianity to accomplish this through brainwashing this pathetic kid. Unless there is a just afterlife the true killers will not suffer the hands of justice. They will probably live good lives if they can defeat their own consciences. I believe there is a time and a place for violence, just not against chapman.
     
  17. hailtothekingbaby

    hailtothekingbaby Yowzers!

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    The dude is not a worse person for killing Lennon than any random murderer is. A famous person's life is not worth more than yours or mine.
     
  18. evil i 13

    evil i 13 Senior Member

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    Not true. Famous people are worth at least 2000 regular joe's. look at the coverage of Anna Nicole's death vs. 9/11 on the day of. All joking aside, Lennon's words were revolutionary. They inspired people. His death had a far greater impact than________(pick anyone from the obits in your local paper). Sure it's still one more dead guy for the mortician to embalm, and it sucks when just about anyone dies, but the difference i share with someone like tesla or da vinci, is about the same difference that is shared between me and a well trained ape. I would have taken that bullet for Lennon, JFK, or MLK and died with a half smile on my face b/c i would have let the world keep something greater than myself. I believe Lennon wouldn't want Chapman hurt or killed for what he did, especially considering the circumstances. i think a tie between this shooting and the MKULTRA project should be closely examined, but more than likely never will be.

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  19. lovelyhippo

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    Thats not entirely true. Cyn said in her book that he only hit her ONE time and that was before they were even married! It was after seeing her dance with Stuart Sutcliffe. John was really jealous in those early days. she said he was deeply ashamed of what he had done and never did it again.
     
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