Why I'm not a Christian

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by hippie_chick666, Aug 29, 2007.

  1. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    Good post. I wish I was as articulate as you.

    peace and love
     
  2. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    If it makes you feel any better, I was blind at 22 myself. :)


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  3. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    I just have problems finding the right words to describe my belief system. I am not a Christian or a Buddhist or any religious association. I am a seeker. I seek the truth of the universe. I am grappling with the notion that there are two parts of myself, the I and self. The self is not real. It is an illusion. The I is what everything is, the divine within, the eternal consciousness. Drop the self and the I is what is left.

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  4. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    I am not a Christian because Jesus's teachings were aimed at a people with a much different mentality than today. I doubt Jesus would be Christian if he was around. He would probably start teaching another philosophy, aimed at opening the minds of Christians.

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  5. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    BTW, I don't feel blind; I just have a little dust in my eyes. Or maybe cataracts. It's a little hazy, but I can see the light...

    Peace and love
     
  6. heywood floyd

    heywood floyd Banned

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    Mostly because there's very little that can be gained by arguing with someone who refuses to listen, and who keeps repeating the same things over and over... and also who refuses to see people as individuals, and prefers to stereotype everyone.

    It's like trying to convince a Nazi that black people are actually okay-- they'll just come up with yet another circular argument.

    So if you enjoy dedicating so much time to hating and fighting something, then go ahead.

    I feel sorry for you.
     
  7. heywood floyd

    heywood floyd Banned

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    Yes, I know. And they keep forcing their beliefs on everyone and saying negative things about people. They also think it's better to believe what they believe and anyone who doesn't is wrong. They also tend to think they're smarter than other people and whenever they can't argue something with any confidence or reason, they resort to personal attacks.

    This is how I know for sure that you used to be one, FedUp!
     
  8. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    I am not Christian because I believe that the original meaning of Jesus's words have been lost to history. He taught the same thing the Buddha did. The difference is that the Buddha's followers understood his words because they too were awakened. Jesus's disciples had little idea of what Jesus's messages truly meant.

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  9. heywood floyd

    heywood floyd Banned

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    That's your opinion.

    Hey-- how about instead of endlessly preaching it to everyone, you start keeping it to yourself? I mean, don't you ever worry that you're only annoying everyone?
     
  10. Theonewhoownsyou

    Theonewhoownsyou Member

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    nope, sorry, try again
    this happens in EVERY GROUP IN THE WORLD, you give somebody power, they abuse it, its human nature.
    once again, fail. and what are "writhings"?
    no, try again, people forget what Christians really believe, but hey, you tried
     
  11. purestlove

    purestlove Member

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    I'm not here to argue but instead to learn.

    There are a few stories in the bible I have read that have turned me away. I have always wanted to believe in God , but I think I question things too much and it pushes me away . Maybe its because I don't understand or try, Im not sure. Ive tried going to different churches but they all seem to have a different interpretation of the bible so I decided to read the bible from beginning to end and interpret it on my own. But from the beginning there were some things I didn't get.

    Something we all know about or have heard about...

    Eve and the apple...
    Why did god punish women forever for one womans sin?
    To me thats like if I hated a whole race because one person of that particular race did something wrong .

    Now the next few things Im confused about I can't remember certain names or anything but bare with me...

    Somewhere in the bible....God describes how he wants people to worship him and what they should wear. He lists all of these specifications for a temple , he wants gold this and silk that........
    Why would it matter what the temple looked like as long as he was being worshiped?

    Sorry about the next one but maybe some of the christains here will know what Im talking about.

    There is another story in the bible where God sends these people hes trying to protect that need a place to stay to a strangers home. When they arrive the owner offers the men a place to stay and even offers to give his daughter to the men(I think he knew god sent them but Im not sure). I don't remember where in the book but I remember reading that god really liked this man and thought highly of him(not the same words of course.)......

    Why would he think highly of a person that treats people like property? This was a bad example but I know there are many more where it seems like women are nothing but babymakers and property.

    Im going to keep reading but I can't seem to get through the bible without getting angry when all I honestly want to do is believe in God.
     
  12. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    It's a good idea to read the bible for yourself and try to make sense of it. I see the bible as a bunch of stories written by man and they tried to explain them according to their beliefs of god. What made sense to them. Take from it what works and ignore the rest.

    Explore other religions as well. Take from those what works for you and create your own spiritual path.

    Peace and love
     
  13. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    when i was xtian, i never read the bible, i just assumed that what was being preached was in the bible. not until i turned from mainstream christianity, that i picked up the book and got my own interpretation from it, which was quite different than the interpretations i'd heard before.

    so yea, great idea purestlove, reach your own conclusions. im reading the gospels again right now. quite a few strange teachings in the gospel. stuff you wouldn't think jesus actually would have said.
     
  14. Theonewhoownsyou

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  15. Theonewhoownsyou

    Theonewhoownsyou Member

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    1. SOME people force their religion on other people, and say bad things
    dont generlize us.
    2. well duh, you think your right, i think im right
    why the hell would you believe in something that you think is not true?
    3.
    PROOF?


    sorry but i just dont take the word of some baisied person's account
     
  16. heywood floyd

    heywood floyd Banned

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    I don't need proof, I have faith.
     
  17. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    Blind faith can be dangerous...

    Peace and love
     
  18. heywood floyd

    heywood floyd Banned

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    Faith in the fact that I'm right and you're wrong.
     
  19. purestlove

    purestlove Member

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    I appreciate everyones feedback. To hippiechick_666, I will also study other religions but Im starting with the bible(I have a feeling that may take some time though). To natural philosophy, yea I think we are in the same boat except I never was a Christian because my family were never big churchgoers. They believe in god though. To theonewhoownsyou, thanks for taking the time to help. I knew Adam was punished but I didn't write that. After rereading my post I noticed how I might have come off as a hardcore feminist(woops). I also clicked on the link and read that page. very interesting. Well, I will keep reading like I said and will post more when I get further into the book.

    Ive had fun reading the debate that goes on in here also and will keep reading your posts. Because although its a mix of believers and non-believers, I like reading everyones opinions.
     
  20. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    A little close minded, are we?

    Peace and love
     

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