Let's do a marijuana experiment

I was curious, and I need to find out: when you smoke marijuana, do large hits make you more efficiently and powerfully stoned than small hits?

I have never really gotten a clear answer on this issue. Some sources have lead me to believe that taking small hits gets you much more fried for a longer period of time, while still other sources have told stories of massive 1 hitters that knock them into a semi-conscious psychedelic haze for 20 minutes, and uses less weed with the right hit device and the skills to handle such a hit. Here is basically what I know about the physiology of what’s happening in regards to taking the hit: You take many small hits over a long smoking period. The benefit to this is that since the actual absorption of THC occurs when you breathe it and not when you hold it in that you get a more efficient and better stoning. You get to smoke for longer. It doesn’t hurt, you stay more settled. Tends to be a more relaxing high (depending on weed strain) since your heart rate doesn’t go up from the strain of the hit and the lack of breath. You exhale less smoke (usually).
Now, on the other hand with large hits.... they have their own benefits IMO. I've never really heard anyone explain this one but here is my hypothesis: When you take a large hit you get a very large rush into your lungs. Although the THC doesn't normally absorb unless you inhale or exhale, it might in this case considering you have the extra pressure of the smoke and your expanded chest exposing capillaries in the lungs. So, probably it's not really a complete waste to hold in hits (we have to be able to absorb into the bloodstream from our lungs, otherwise we would become oxygen depraved the moment we tried to hold our breath). Also, there may be a potency benefit due to the faster dosing of THC into the body through large inhalations. Compare it to taking a un-scraped oxy and taking scraped one, which fucks you way more. It technically may not be as long of a journey this way, but its because you are going way faster on the trail... Might get smokers with high tolerance a better step into actual states of the high. This is IMO the best way to get absolutely baked. Feeling the acute effects of the drug...

In my experiment I'd like to get people to try the different methods and see which actually gave the more fulfilling and satisfying high, as well as feelings users had associated with each method.

Here is what I wanna record:

.5 / 1 / 1.5 grams smoked in a standard pipe with low flame to the marijuana. Small but steady inhalations. 6-8 seconds before exhalation. Emotions and changes in awareness documented throughout the smoking experience as well as afterward. Approximant time from start of smoking until return to baseline.

.5 / 1 / 1.5 grams smoked in a lung (vacuum bag bong), large bong, wide pipe, steamroller , etc.... (Please note which particular smoking device was used). Large and aggressive inhalations (fun). Try for 10 seconds or longer before exhaling. Once again, document changes in emotion and awareness during smoking and after. Approximant time from when you lit up to when you went back to baseline.

Please try to have your tolerance at equal levels when you try each method. Also, document specifics on the grade of the marijuana used if possible. And FYI I don't want anyone to be paranoid, it is fine if this is filled out anonymously. I will ask permission before publishing any information about participants and I would be more than happy to give credit to anyone who would like it for participating.

If anyone knows of any reads on the specifics of herb smoking methods, it would be nice if I could have a look. I think it is very interesting, and could possibly add a new approach to how you achieve your particular high.

Thanks,
Dylan

PS. I was totally baked when I wrote all of this, so fuck anyone who says smoking bud makes you a lethargic dumbass.

 

Ive found i get more baked with large hits. Like, punch the whole cone (bowl) in one hit. It doesnt seem to effect duration. hold for 6 seconds or so. definately gets my higher than small hits. I know this, caus ive tested the same weed with different smoking methods.


I found teh most efficient use was to put only half a bowl in the bowl, and punch the whole of that. That way, there is not uneccesary burning at all (100% of the smoke is inhaled).

Length of high seemed pretty normal.

Ive been GONE of the tiniest amount of weed (our bowls over here are smaler than american bowls, and so half an aussi cone is prolyl quite a small amount in some of your eyes.

The stuff i9 have now, i was numb from one hit. I made a post about it earlier, having to go so school function. I tried half the amount again last night and it was almsot as strong.
I might go for the same amount tongiht.
trust me, the amount of weed is like.. if you put the tips of your fingers together, the space between teh fingers (a demented bowl sorta thing) filed with weed. thats how little.

 

I think it's all more relative to the time-frime of your high, and the amount of time you take to smoke. When you smoke with large hits, you obviously are going to take less hits. Taking hits takes less time. So, let's assume 1 bong hit is 5 joint hits. If you take one bong hit that's equal to 5 joint hits, you're going to get that much high immediately. If you casually smoke a joint, or are in a cypher, then you will have time between each hit. You might be higher on the bong, but your high from the joint will probably last longer.

Most of the arugment I've ever heard about small hits being better is simply because some say your lungs don't absorb the THC. The thing is, if you take a bong hit, you generally rip it for 30 seconds to a minute. (I do, anyway). Most of the THC will be absorbed by the time you clear the chamber, and then a simple ten second hold will probably do.


But, all my past experience is how I described above. In fact, I did an experience like this when I first started smoking.

I had one bowl packed, it was about a gram. I hit it in two huge hits. The come up took about 15 minutes, and the peak lasted about an hour (lightweight, I was). I smoked another bowl the next day, smaller hits. About 10. The come up took about 45 minutes, and my peak lasted about two hours. The intensity wasn't as great as the two big hits, though.


With the two hit bowl, a lot of the effects were interference with depth perceptionl, closed-eye-visuals, and a lot of body and cerbral high. I had a lot of "omnidirectional" thinking. Which, for me, is where I'll thinka bout one thing, and then that thing will remind me of another. It makes concentration pretty hard, but I can also focus on several different thoughts at once. It was like multi-task thinking.


With the ten hits, it was mostly a relaxed, euphoric experience. I was in a very good mood, very laughy. I had the munchies like crazy. There was a very big cerebral high, and I felt as if I had become "one" with the universe. My perception of moving through space just felt different. I started to actually "feel" the air around me. The matter around me. Not just walking from one point to another and feeling as if nothing was there.


Both bowls were mid-grade commercial stuff.

 

dude how can you fit that much smoke in your lungs? half a gram? that is so much smoke its impractical!


lol and youd hope it was mids, seg, half a gram hit of some nicer stuff could knock you out...

I think the hold in is farily important, and while holding, try to get movement around in the lungs.

 

I don't know. I think bud is really dence down there in AUS, or something. I've talked with a couple friends down there, and he was saying something about getting 10-20 bowls out of a gram. That surprised the shit out of me, because the bowls I normally pack are 1 grammers. I even packed a bowl once, took it out, and weighed it.

This is why I think we need to start measuring weed in volume and not mass.

 

well actually, there is the same amount of weed in similar weights of weed, its jsut more compressed. youd get teh same high tho if you cut it up.


And our bowls are much smaller than yours. i posted a pic, ill put it up here again>>>

but i find our bowl sizes are rather good. you can get bigger american sized ones ot use at parties and stuff but by yourself you shouldnt need that much. I think the weed in australia is more potent than msot palces. It was according to a study done in teh 90's, dont knwo how relevant it would be now.

 

That bowl in that big is about the same diameter. The one I had looks like it was a bit deeper, though. So, it probably was compressed.

 

lol dude you cant fit a gram into a bowl with that diameter. no matter how cmopressed it was. a half a gram at most.

 

well.... let's think about this for a second.

take 1 really fat rip where you gasping for air and your lungs are filled to the brim with thc laden smoke.

or

take several small rips that get's combined with loads of oxygen.

hrm....... it's a brain teaser

 

Well, damn, I wish I had a digi-scale here. I measured it at my friend's house. But, here, a gram isn't really that big, I don't think. The bowl you have is like a .5, but the one I had was slightly bigger. I fit a bud that was roughly the same size of a golf ball (a bit smaller) into it shredded once. It was over-flowing and shit, though.

 

I think it really all depends on ur approach

One can grind his or her grass which makes the resin gland more open ready to be burned off which will make the first hit stronger. If one was to just put enough in his bowl for one hit and then repeat you would get really fucked up and it would stretch out the high.

Or one could pack that same bowl into a bong with good airflow on it and quickly clearing carb can become just as wasted off one hit.

But packing that same bowl just into a pipe "not one hits" wether u take small or big hits u will not be as stoned as u would be from methods one and two

 

Sorry can you just tell me whatcha mean for hit/s??

Is that a synonimous for sip or what??
I found this word in other threads but i haven't understood yet the right meaning.I'm curious to practise your experiment

 

if you use a good vapourisor you will get about 10 real nice hits from a gram and i find that 3 or 4 hits will set you up for most of the night ,(providing that its fairly good weed ) and for me its big hits every time the bigger the better.
and because the vapourisor only burns of the thc you get a maximum lung fill of pure thc king vapourisor

 

Seems to me an experiment like this would be quite hard to do. It'd be too hard to control for outside variables. Marijuana affects different people in different ways (the possible issue of tolerance, some people being overall more sensitive, and personal disposition), and will affect the same person differently depending on initial mood, setting, and possibly things like last time you ate, drank, had sex, took a dump...I don't know how big an effect these last 4 things would have, but still. Also, you'd want to control for the strain of weed being smoked, so that THC levels are equal, not to mention the other 60 cannabanoids. It'd be best to use stuff from the same plant, or a clone of it. Anyways, based on these issues, it seems like it'd be hard to measure whether big or small hits make a person higher...unless you control for these things.

By the way, common sense tells me smaller hits would work better. More of the smoke would get into the alveoli in the lungs (where gas exchange occurs) instead of taking a huge hit and having the THC-laden smoke just sitting, unused, in the larger bronchial tubes where I don't think any significant exchange occurs. This is just a guess, but it's not a bad idea, if I do say so myself.

 

Yer but trippin, when you hold your breath, your lungs absorb lots and lots of chemicals. Think of itlike this as well, If you take smaller hits, tehres still gonna be an equal ratio of thc in the alveoli as in the rest of the lungs. I think oxygen is absorbed more readily than thc too, so the more oxygen you have in your lungs id think the longer youd have to hold it in to get all the thc.

And Gerva, a hit is on breath from whatever youre smoking from. A sip is when you drink liquids.

 

i honestly DONT care... i get high, and im high, lets not get TOO efficient...

 

Ah, but just because you have a lot of oxygen in there doesn't mean the THC will absorb slower. Osmosis doesn't work like that; if there's less THC in the bloodstream around the alveoli than in the lung, then the THC in the lung will move across into the blood according to how great the difference is between THC levels in blood compared to in the lung, regardless of how much oxygen is around it.

My point was, past a certain point, you just can't fit more smoke in your alveoli, so it's just sitting in the larger tubes in the lungs, not getting absorbed and finally being blown out.

 

yer but when you have less density of thc in the lungs, the rate of osmosis will be lower, for you cannot have infinite molecules being .. osmosised at once, oxygen would have a higher density and so would be pushed thruogh in preference to the much muchlarger, and scarcer THC molecules.

 

That's a pretty good point... But I figure since I hold the smoke in for a few seconds, I absorb most of the good stuff anyways. And though it may take a bit longer, I know at least that I'm not breathing out a ton of unabsorbed THC.

I dunno, I like to take it slow anyways. It's more relaxing than taking some monster hit and trying to hold it in while also trying to cough and maybe getting dizzy from lack of oxygen. Small hits give plenty of oxygen, and in the end, you still get a bunch of THC in you and you still get good and high.

 

take a huge bong hit

then chill with bowl or joint


should be high


if you can tell difference in hits between small and big

theres a huge differnece in high