what do you think of timothy leary

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Do you all consider acid to be a hard drug?

I think its likely the drugs did contribute to "the end", but it was a bunch of other things too. Govt, society, etc. Possibly the hardest drugs of them all.

 

yeah i think anything besides weed and mushrooms are hard drugs

 

lol. even like tobacco, or catnip, or caffeine, or crystal meth, or alcohol, or aspirin?

 

you know what im saying of the drugs that are classified as "drugs" by the DEA marijuana and mushrooms are the only ones that are classified as softcore drugs. Dont get me wrong ive done almost every drug by heroin meth and crack and im not saying anyone is wrong or doesnt have the right to use any drug they desire, im just saying in my opinion acid is classified as hardcore

 

if mushies are soft then how about psilocybin?

 

yeah its teh same thing

 

then how about 4-ho-dmt, or 4-aco-dmt, or 4-ho-amt, where do you draw the line?

 

no thats all synthetic easy, if its natural aka weed mushrooms, then alright same as the netherlands laws

 

well what about synthesized psilocybin? or extracted psilocybin? and 4-ho-dmt is psilocin, which is also in shrooms. and 4-aco-dmt metabolizes into psilocin in the body, just as psilocybin does. and what about peyote, that is natural?

 

wtf are we still arguing about why bother having synthetic if you could get mushroom?

 

because once you make mushies legal, logic follows that psilocybin and psilocin should be legal, but then so should 4-aco-dmt, and then so on through the tryptamines.
and then once mushies are legal for being natural, so should be peyote, and logic follows that mescaline should be, and then you gradually work through the phenethylamines, and then the amphetamines.

 

i guess thats just how your logic works then...and how did we start on legality lol i cant remember when it switched over from rating to legality

 

someone said lsd was what ended the hippy movement.

 

but that wasent about the legality it was about how all those hippies got strung out and started to steal to do drugs and all the rockstars died and end movement ended

 

pretty sure that was it then. but ya this thread got way off topic.

 

The DEA doesnt classify anything as hard or softcore. They classify drugs as schedule 1, 2,3, etc. Schedule 1 is the most restricted, meaning no recognized medicinal value and a high risk for abuse. Drugs in this category are... weed, lsd, shrooms, heroin, pcp, mdma, and I think that is it. Yes they consider weed to be more serious than coke, morphine, amphetamines including meth, and a bunch of other shit.

Also why would you listen to anything the DEA says. They are probably the most non-scientific, corrupt organization in history.

I dont consider acid to be a hard drug. To me hard drugs are ones like alcohol, stimulants, and opiates. A little too much of those and you stop breathing or your heart explodes.

Psychedelics are psychedelics imo.