Communist Russia

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by illumincoalitional, Aug 17, 2007.

  1. illumincoalitional

    illumincoalitional Member

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    I heard the president of Russia Vladimir Putin has been banishing capitalist businessmen from the west & has reinstated the KGB. I hope this is true, mother Russia is the last hope for Europe. It's disgusting & unclean now, I'm tired of greedy abrahamic monotheistics always causing trouble such as extremist Al Qaeda or evil America. I'm tired of inflation, how the rich get richer, or how our jobs are taken away & crime rate has worsen by news worthy's called "Asians" that are just middle eastern Jews. Their getting us on hard drugs so we don't have the will to fight back people. They are brain washing us youth with their media so that we obey them.

    Their needs to be another French Revolution but this time against the statesmen.
     
  2. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    I support an alien invasion. Death to the human virus!
     
  3. BraveSirRubin

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    You are very idealistic.

    ...and extremely misinformed.
     
  4. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Nothing a good bottle of Vodka can’t cure [​IMG]



    Hotwater
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    The communist system in Russia was established by the western Anglo-American establishment in 1917. It was the Wall Street and London bankers who funded Trotsky and Lenin, giving them the ability to incite the Bolshevik Revolution.

    I kind of chuckled when I read the poll options, especially where it said "A Communist - No one has the right to enslave someone with money". Well, that is exactly what communism is because it is a form of monopoly capitalism, where the few at the top consolidate the wealth of the public, then use that wealth to in turn enslave the public. Communism is nothing more than a form of capitalism where the elite few at the top control all the wealth and live in absolute luxury, while those below are peasants.

    Putin isn't doing anything he's not being told to do by his handlers. At the top, the same people formulating policy in Russia are also formulating policy in the US, which is why the US system is more and more starting to mimic the Soviet system.
     
  6. revolutionharry

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    were you expecting a switch from monarchism to communism over night whilst half the rest of the world was trying to crush your optimism at every turn the whole time?


    did you expect stalin to live in an upperwestside bungalow or something?


    even idealism can only be so ideal without sacrificing any chance of success


    state capitalism is fine if the means are genuinely towards change and eventual better ends for EVERYONE and you can't say for certain what joseph's intentions originally were or ever were even to the very end


    and those below already were peasants most would likely agree worse off but obviously that is heresay or speculation or whatever



    in the end peace will have nothing to do with any ONE country or ideal it will simply come to be as a result of a NECESSITY for change to avoid certain doom



    that or we are severely fucked
     
  7. Comrade Stalin Guevara

    Comrade Stalin Guevara Member

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    "if the free market is of benefit to the people it does not contrdict socialisim"-gorbachev
    maybe in 1992 closed door meetings senior politburo members decided the ussr should change its image but keep the old leaders in control,
    after all the leaders after 92 are ex-coms or amoung the old soviet elite,

    also russia aint europes last hope the will of the european people is the last hope.
    its interesting wall st was mentioned- zionist funded lennin because only with war can zionisim survive,
    zionist controled the ussr after stalins death.

    Comrade Stalin Guevara.
     
  8. BraveSirRubin

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    Russia is shit politically and corrupt socially.
     
  9. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Comrade thank you for reminding me I responded to this post over
    20 months ago :rolleyes:


    Hotwater
     
  10. Unknown American

    Unknown American Rogue Capitalist

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    I am a Capitalist, although a Rogue one . I always have been and always will be.

    The elite have designed a system that makes it almost impossible for the average person to acquire wealth.

    But there is still a way for people to get beyond these restrictions.

    The individual is the key.

    All of the Governments, have let all of the people down, all of the time.

    History proves this.

    Fanaticism to any idea is a trap.
     
  11. Comrade Stalin Guevara

    Comrade Stalin Guevara Member

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    Thats about the gist of capitalist russia!

    Comrade Stalin Guevara.
     
  12. BraveSirRubin

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    It wasn't much better politically back in the day, neither was it socially.

    It was culturally though, by a ridiculous extent.
     
  13. Comrade Stalin Guevara

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    True facts right there,
    whats your politics?,
    im communist but noy because of history
    i follow my self but am influenced by stalin and che also ho chi minh,
    non socialist i am influenced by are
    tupac amaru 2, kawhiti, hone heke and jfk,
    but im at the point where i want to abandon communisim and start a new ideology because last century communisim failed maybe it is worthless to continue on this path and a change is needed obama is not that change either.

    Comrade Stalin Guevara.
     
  14. BraveSirRubin

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    Stalin had barely any ideals of his own, but only false adaptations of others' ideals which he used to justify his thirst for power and senseless murder.

    Che was extremely idealistic to the verge of stupidity. He also murdered a lot of people in the name of idealism and eventually made no real impact as the people of Cuba lived in poverty and social repression under Castro.

    I won't even deal with the others.

    I have no idea why you have JFK there, since his views completely contradict the views of all the other ones.

    You can't be older than 16.

    It's good that you're thinking though, and are getting involved politically. Eventually you will grow to realize that all of those people were self-serving bigots who only changed the world for the worse.

    What are my politics? Probably closest to Libertarian, in the classical sense... not the Bob Barr sense.
     
  15. Comrade Stalin Guevara

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    Shame on me you think im 16 but its worse im 21 lol,
    i can agree with the stalin thing but not che
    without che cubans would still be in poverty the diffrence being what little profit cuba makes wouldent go to free healthcare it go to masonic mansions in the new england hills,
    also cuba starves because the embargo.
    i guess i value human life diffrently eh!

    Comrade Stalin Guevara.
     
  16. BraveSirRubin

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    You have some growin' up to do for a 21 year old. Or at least some idealism to shed.

    Your life has probably not been hard enough, but I'm only guessing here, not really trying to challenge you.

    Without Che a whole lot of Cubans wouldn't have died, the country would have eventually disposed of Batista, probably with U.S. support, and opened the country up to capitalism.

    The country would have then made millions upon millions on tourism and exports such as cane and fish. The country would have been extremely wealthy and probably would have become a satellite of the U.S. like Puerto Rico.

    There would be no free healthcare, but there would be much more spread out and affordable healthcare.

    Communist Cuba does have rather great healthcare and a quality education system, yet these things aren't inherently Communist. Cuba was rather progressive in both concepts before the revolution.

    Cuba starves because the government is corrupt. The embargo is only with the United States. The Communist government refused to import from other countries for political reasons for many years... there was no embargo stopping them.

    Talk to a Cuban who had to flee as a refugee from Fidel one day, it will really give you a new perspective.

    Better yet, pick up a fucking history book or ten and learn the real facts before forming dumb theories and claiming that you "value human life differently".
     
  17. lode

    lode Banned

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    Don't forget the terminator in your picture. I was influenced by the terminator.
     
  18. BraveSirRubin

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    Man, I hope that the new one doesn't suck too bad.

    I only watch one or two movies a year in theaters... and this one is gonna be one of them.
     
  19. Comrade Stalin Guevara

    Comrade Stalin Guevara Member

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    Fair point no offence taken
    i love learning and critics are good,
    as for my life yea not that hard,
    i grew up in a poor town my father left when i was 2
    my mother raised me and 2 siblings on a welfare check but she done well,
    i was kicked from school at 14 joined a gang at 15 and went to juve at 17 i got out last year and so far have stayed out of trouble.

    as for cuba i have a cuban freind from havana i talk to through emails
    who loves his country,
    but he may be to scared to say diffrent?
    but some interesting and mind provoking things you say
    deffintly worth a think.

    Libertarianisim- anarchy for the rich!

    Comrade Stalin Guevara.
     
  20. BraveSirRubin

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    That's not a fun life, oh well... it could be a million times worse.

    Like, per example, having all of your possessions taken, and being forced to leave the only country you've ever known or else you'll get murdered just because you do not conform to a certain ideology.

    Cuba is very different now. It's practically capitalistic, just poor. Give it 10 years after the embargo is lifted (should happen during Obama)... it will be a capitalist paradise with nice expensive sandy beaches.

    Libertarianism... not even close to anarchy.

    Cheers for not taking offense, btw... I use harsh words once in a while, but they're for impact and emphasis, not really for insult... even though I do like how they get some people emotionally involved in a discussion... makes it real or whatever.
     

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