:lol: I can't wait to see the hell that insues if this actually happened. http://www.psp-spp.com/?q=en
I'm surprised more people aren't discussing this. It's still just conspiracy theory as of right now, though you wouldn't think that the way conservatives are shitting a brick over it. Who wouldn't love a huge NAFTA super highway smack dab in the middle of the US though?
I don't see the problem of treaties and roads to increase commerce. If anything, I think a North American Union would likely be a positive thing.
I believe the reason the I35 bridge in Minnesota was weakened was because of 100's of overweight trucks being 'allowed' to cross it since 2002. NAFTA trucks!
Yeah, right. It's a "conspiracy theory," despite the fact they openly admit in their documents and even refer to it as the NORTH AMERICAN UNION. They also talk about their need to keep this a secret from the public. But to those who want to live in denial and with their heads buried in the sand, they should continue to do so. PS: Ozone - this would have been better in another forum. Most people in here don't really like to talk about anything of importance. Funny how all these Leftist publications are all of a sudden putting out NAU "debunking" pieces.... all of which can easily be refuted by looking at the documents the media refuses to discuss.
Yeah, it's so "positive" the general public isn't even allowed to know about it. It will even be better once they crash the economy in order to bring in this new system, coupled with a new standardized currency to replace the dollar.
yeah this won't happen america is way too proud for this i speak for america only reason to do this, would be so that whenever we wanna declare war.. canada and mexico gotta shut they asses up so they prob wouldn't join anyway canada's economy is too good to need to and america rules we don't need HELP MOTHERFUCKER unless your england germany or japan or all of inland europe... in which case... you have to help us bitches
I don't see how Canada would agree to do something like this. There doesn't seem to be a positive side to all this for them. They don't even want to go to war with us, why would they want to make a Union? I need to read more into this or something. plus, what are you so worried about? You can read directly from the SPP about their objectives. http://www.spp.gov/myths_vs_facts.asp I'm assuming this would go to politics, but I don't have enough posts yet.
Blue States should unite with Canada and become the United States of Canada Red States can have Mexico and become the Fascist States of America
For the average person to know about it, they have to consciously search for the information. It's not being covered on the nightly news. Most people have never heard of it. Most people only know about sports, entertainment, and whatever is covered on the news. The people who are more informed will have heard about it, but how many people is that? Most people are worried about paying their bills and putting food on the table, and don't have the time to seek out this information.
The Canadian people might not go for it, just as most Americans will not go for it. That's why it's being done behind the people's backs. But it doesn't matter what the people want because those at the top make the decisions, and they will use whatever tactics necessary to get the people to accept it. The leaders of all three countries are part of this. It's not being done by the US, but with cooperation from the US, Canada and Mexico. They have all signed the agreement. (Despite the claim that no agreement was signed.) The SPP so-called "myth page" is nothing more than denials and lies. If you simply read the documents, as I have done, you will see what's going on and how they openly call this a "North American Union." Now if you don't believe that bureaucratic elitists would ever lie to you, then by all means continue to believe whatever they tell you. All I will say is that the devil is in the details, and those who have done their homework know what's true and what isn't. What am I worried about? I am not worried about anything because I know what's going on. But if you like the idea of globalist elitists plotting behind your back to merge the three countries into one, along with a common currency, and the fascistic system that will go along with it, then continue believing what you want to believe.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965 North American Union to Replace USA? by Jerome R. Corsi Posted: 05/19/2006 President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy. Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada. President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed. The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union: At their meeting in Waco, Texas, at the end of March 2005, U.S. President George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin committed their governments to a path of cooperation and joint action. We welcome this important development and offer this report to add urgency and specific recommendations to strengthen their efforts. What is the plan? Simple, erase the borders. The plan is contained in a "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" little noticed when President Bush and President Fox created it in March 2005: In March 2005, the leaders of Canada, Mexico, and the United States adopted a Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), establishing ministerial-level working groups to address key security and economic issues facing North America and setting a short deadline for reporting progress back to their governments. President Bush described the significance of the SPP as putting forward a common commitment "to markets and democracy, freedom and trade, and mutual prosperity and security." The policy framework articulated by the three leaders is a significant commitment that will benefit from broad discussion and advice. The Task Force is pleased to provide specific advice on how the partnership can be pursued and realized. To that end, the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that "our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary." Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America. The perspective of the CFR report allows us to see President Bush's speech to the nation as nothing more than public relations posturing and window dressing. No wonder President Vincente Fox called President Bush in a panic after the speech. How could the President go back on his word to Mexico by actually securing our border? Not to worry, President Bush reassured President Fox. The National Guard on the border were only temporary, meant to last only as long until the public forgets about the issue, as has always been the case in the past. The North American Union plan, which Vincente Fox has every reason to presume President Bush is still following, calls for the only border to be around the North American Union -- not between any of these countries. Or, as the CFR report stated: The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramatically diminishing the need for the current intensity of the governments’ physical control of cross-border traffic, travel, and trade within North America. A long-term goal for a North American border action plan should be joint screening of travelers from third countries at their first point of entry into North America and the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America. Discovering connections like this between the CFR recommendations and Bush administration policy gives credence to the argument that President Bush favors amnesty and open borders, as he originally said. Moreover, President Bush most likely continues to consider groups such as the Minuteman Project to be "vigilantes," as he has also said in response to a reporter's question during the March 2005 meeting with President Fox. Why doesn’t President Bush just tell the truth? His secret agenda is to dissolve the United States of America into the North American Union. The administration has no intent to secure the border, or to enforce rigorously existing immigration laws. Securing our border with Mexico is evidently one of the jobs President Bush just won't do. If a fence is going to be built on our border with Mexico, evidently the Minuteman Project is going to have to build the fence themselves. Will President Bush protect America's sovereignty, or is this too a job the Minuteman Project will have to do for him?
http://newsblaze.com/story/20070107092239nnnn.nb/topstory.html North American Union - It's Coming By William H. Calhoun If you have not read the news in a few months, you may be unaware: there are plans to create a North American Union, whereby Mexico, the United States and Canada will eventually become a single country, with a single currency and a single superhighway system Construction on the NAFTA Superhighway, encompassing I-69 and directed by NASCO, has already begun in two states. It will run from central Mexico, through the middle of the United States, through Kansas City, and up into Canada. It will be four football fields wide, off limits to most Americans, and run by foreign companies. The mechanism to implement the NAU is the SPP (Strategic and Prosperity Partnership of North America), which was settled between President Bush, President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin during their March 2005 summit meeting in Waco, Texas. Sec. of State Condoleezza Rice has been instrumental in setting the SPP plans in motion. The North American Union will modeled after ultra-liberal European Union, and put in place by administrative regulations under the SPP umbrella. Outraged by this plan, four patriotic Congressmen (Reps. Virgil H. Good, Walter B. Jones, Ron Paul, and Tom Tancredo) have introduced H. Con. Res. 487, which states that "the United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System or enter into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada." In the last few weeks, patriot Americans from all over the United States have been telephoning their Congressmen demanding that H. Con. Res. 487 be put to a vote and passed in 2007. Nevertheless, cheerleaders for the Bush Administration deny that any plans for a North American Union exist. Neocon Michael Medved says that "there's no reason at all to believe in the ludicrous, childish, ill-informed, manipulative, brain dead fantasies about a North American Union. The entire chimera has been conjured up to scare people over nothing...." If there are no plans for a North American Union, then why did four of the most patriotic Congressmen see it necessary to introduce H. Con. Res. 487? And if it is not real, then what would H. Con. Res. 487 harm? Legislation preventing a "chimera" certainly cannot present any danger. Why are neocon Trotskyites like Medved becoming so emotionally unstable over a bill to prevent a "chimera"? To any discerning mind, plans for a North American Union do exist. One only need to look at the wording of SPP documents, or look at the NASCO website. It has been set in motion. As Cicero famously said, "patere tua consilia non sentis, constrictam iam horum omnium scientia teneri coniurationem tuam non vides?" How have we come to this place? The NAFTA agreement can be seen as the beginning, which the wisest recognized as a disaster from day one. Historically, conservatives have opposed free trade, and they should. It is destroying our economy, it is undermining our sovereignty, and it is national suicide. Many in the GOP, however, have been "neoconned" on this issue. To see the connection between free trade the dissolution of the USA under the North American Union, only need to read Karl Marx. On Jan. 9, 1848, in "On the Question of Free Trade," Marx said, "...in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade." Notice, Marx's celebration of the breaking up of "old nationalities." Such a statement is similar to GW Bush's claim that the USA is not an "actual place," but an "idea." Neocons celebrate this Marxist notion of a "propositional nation," because it removes the historic prerequisites of nationhood: borders; a common language, history and genealogy; blood and soil; kith and kin; and genophilia (instinctive attachment to family and tribe). It is thus that GW Bush and others have so adamantly supported the third-world invasion of American, and why many predict that the 700-mile fence will not be built. The U.S.-Mexico border must be abolished for the implementation of the North American Union. It is all about profit and cheap labor, and big business adamantly supports the prerequisite of the North American Union: the third-world invasion of America. During the Cold War, big business sided with many conservatives to oppose Marxism. Now, however, most large corporations side with the internationalist Left. In the 1950s, when our country was invaded, President Eisenhower responded with "Operation Wetback" and deported around a million invaders in a single year. Today, however, politicians say they are unable. Rather, they are unwilling. Some of the greatest traitors in American history are right before our eyes: GW Bush, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, John McCain, Arlen Specter, Lindsey Graham, Mike Huckabee, Sam Brownback, Linda Chavez, Alberto Gonzales, Carlos Gutierrez, Ted Kennedy, Barack Obama, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, John Edwards, Harry Reid, Linda Sanchez, Robert Menendez, Luis Gutierrez, Solomon Ortiz, and the list goes on and on. These miscreants have chosen Mexico, multicultural political correctness, and big business over hard-working Americans. They have betrayed Middle America. And what can be done to stop this North American Union (aka, treason)? Call and write your Congressmen, and demand a real patriotic President in 2008, like Duncan Hunter or Tom Tancredo. We are under attack - both from within and without. Prepare for the oncoming madness! Stop the North American Union! Stop the third-world invasion!