School starts Monday.

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by CrazybutLazy, Aug 11, 2007.

  1. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    Yeah. Preschool kids are creative until the strict formalism is imposed on them at the first grade. Schools in the U.S. were modeled after the factories of the industrial revolution. Ringing the work (school) bell, desks all aligned like machines at the factory, the boss up front watching everyone, etc. If you're lucky, you'll end up in a school where the teachers give some freedom and individual attention to students. It's much easier for teachers to use a simple standardized approach of teaching that isn't effective for everyone.

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  2. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    There was a documentary on TV showing how quickly kids can learn many different languages, but it has to be done before first grade. Once they've been formalized in gradeschool and made to strictly conform to a particular language and set of rules, it's next to impossible for most of them to quickly learn different languages. The mind is no longer open and free.

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  3. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    ^actually the language part of your brain just learns much better during the first few years of life, and that's when it would be best to teach kids multiple languages. it actually ends before school age though, and it is true universally, regardless of formalized schooling or whatever else each particular culture typically has its children doing
     
  4. ConeyIslandOfTheMind

    ConeyIslandOfTheMind Member

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    One of the best teachers I've ever known kind of touched on that one time when I was talking with him about the suckiness of public education. He said that really, you shouldn't retain all that information. What school is for, mainly, is building problem-solving skills that will carry on into the real world. In any case, why do you think you'll ever need to know how to graph parabolic equations, ya know? But knowing how to use a process to get to a solution, knowing how to cope well under stress - that you will need.

    I also believe that the cramming technique that we all tend to use is a result of the system moving towards teaching us how to take tests instead of building our ambition to actually learn. We're lazy, and we want to half-ass everything, but our teachers aren't really telling us that it's not okay. They're going along with it, and letting us slide into the whole "get by on as little as possible" philosophy.
     
  5. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    That's tough [​IMG]

    Growing up here in New England we never started school until after labor day [​IMG]

    But on the opposite end of the school year, If we had a lot of snow days the school year was extended.


    Hotwater
     
  6. WVHippie

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    The only solution for it is to skip.
     
  7. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    I use trig and calculus all the time at work.
     
  8. ConeyIslandOfTheMind

    ConeyIslandOfTheMind Member

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    What do you do?
     
  9. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Surveyor.
     
  10. CrazybutLazy

    CrazybutLazy Banned

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    There were huge storms last night. Buildings collapsed and there is debris all over the roads. Most of downtown lost power, which means no school today. Weee!
     
  11. Freakymetalchik

    Freakymetalchik BITCH.

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    I start in two weeks, sophomore year at a catholic school with uniforms.
    Fun. The joy of learning.
    Not.
     
  12. ConeyIslandOfTheMind

    ConeyIslandOfTheMind Member

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    Well, that makes sense.
     
  13. D_MAN

    D_MAN Member

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    Ya im pissed. 2 more days fer me. Then im back into the jesuit all boys school. Trust me, id rather have a few more weeks of school and have some interaction with the opposite sex than this. We do, however, have the 2nd least amount of school days of highschools in the us of a, which, i admit, is pretty awesome.

    But, im getting some tough teachers and its junior year- so im pretty screwed. Im still burnt out from last year. And I forgot everything! Which sux because im taking mandarin (I signed up fer it back in 8th grade- thought it was pretty funny at the time...)
    ConeyIslandOfTheMind your right...im planning on barely slipping by. Fuck colleges. When did they get so much power? Fuck trying to impress them. If colleges actually picked people on other things than statistics and numbers, then i bet we wouldn't have these suicidal murderers under too much pressure from this screwed up system (If ya know what i mean) and i dont mean to be crude but thats what happens when you treat a person like a number.

    Im not looking foward to school.
     
  14. mr.mescalito

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    If you wanna change the world you must first know what the world is... that's something most of them hippies never really got into their heads. That's why hippies never changed the world.
     
  15. ElChivato

    ElChivato SeNioR MeMBeR

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    i'm glad to go back to school. this summer sucked. plus i get to hang out with all my buddies and shit. it's not really that bad, i don't know why people complain so much. if you hate it that fucking much, drop the fuck out already. school isn't going to kill you.
     
  16. fricknfrack

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    Yeah i start on the 10th of sept.
    I don't get much of a holiday or summer VK though. we go straight through. because of our practium out in the community. At least you get educated dude. Some ppl don't have the opprotunity or even get denied to have a education.

    Cheers!
     
  17. D_MAN

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    hrmmm...
    Well, first of all, my comment was just to let of some steam, I was kind of mad at the time.
    And I do believe hippies did change the world, just not in the way they wanted to.
    And no, I don't exactly know what the world is. But I do know that I won't discover it in any textbook or from any teacher.

    But damn man, if that quote is yours, can I use it if I get a sig?
     
  18. CrazybutLazy

    CrazybutLazy Banned

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    I would if I could. My plans do NOT involve needing to know any of the bullshit they preach to us at school.

    High Schools is a fucking joke anyway. Nobody remembers anything they learned in high school because they never use any of it, and if they get a job where they need it later on they usually have to re-learn it.
     
  19. D_MAN

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    47 minutes left of summer...
    Guess it won't be that bad.
    It's the school part I'm mainly worried about. O well. After this year its basically over.
    And I'm not gonna stop the rain by complaining anyway.
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    And I have exactly enough time to listen to dark side one more time......
    Guess this summer was good. 'Cause I saw Rodger Waters live... That was tight. So this is the final hoorah for me.

    Goodbye summer
     
  20. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

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    School is better than work.
     

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