Save The Utah Miners

Discussion in 'Psychic' started by sisle, Aug 17, 2007.

  1. sisle

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    I am not psychic but a lot of people claim they are. I don't think it's for real at this point. If there is anyone out there who believes they are gifted could you please try and help the Utah Miners. It doesn't appear that the rescuers even know where to look. I saw an offer at The Final Challenge. They are offfering a reward to anyone who can predict the outcome. More importantly they will give $1,000,000.00 to the families. If anyone can help they should.
     
  2. its_des10e

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    "They are offering a reward to anyone who can predict the outcome."

    I hope you mean they are offering a reward to anyone who can pinpoint thier location. Otherwise, it just sounds extremely cruel. To be rewarded for predicting the mortality rate of lost miners. (Not you.... the people offering the money.)

    I wish I could help. Bieng an empath, I sometimes try to detatch because it can be overwhelming for me.
     
  3. Pleiadian Dreams

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    Lets all flood the area with Love/Light for the miners and their families. We can't interfere with their destiny and if their destiny is to exit the planet in this manner, who are we to judge. They may have a collective plan to enlighten the mining company to the horrid conditions these men work under while Bush and the boys increase coal mining. I live in West Virginia where they are topping our mountains for coal that trashes the ecosystem below and are encouraging people to sign up for coal mining school. I have great empathy.
     
  4. its_des10e

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    Well said, PD. My father was a second generation coal miner for about fifteen years of his life, although he was a high-wall driller for our strip mining company. Luckily, they have reclaimed all the land they stripped, and it belongs to the state now. My grandfather was a deep miner and was stuck in a cave-in once for several days. It gave him nightmares for the remainder of his life. And it turned his hair white. (The stress I assume...)

    I certainly do feel for them, and I am sending love and light.
     
  5. sisle

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    So what you're saying is if I'm sick I shouldn't go to the doctor. That would be interfereing with the natural order of things?


    You hippie nutbag.
     
  6. its_des10e

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    No, you're misinterpretting this. She is just saying that one who may (or does) have the ability to influence the outcome of such a thing has a duty to NOT do anything that would upset the natural balance either way.

    It's like a friend asking someone who is a shaman to do a ritual to save thier mother who is dying from cancer. Morally, it would be wrong to do this because it would be messing with the natural balance of life and death. What the shaman can do is send love and light, offer prayers that if this person does cross over it happens quickly, easily , as painlessly as possible, and surrounded by loved ones. And if she is going to recover, may it happen swiftly and fully.
     
  7. its_des10e

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    In addition to that, if we were meant to help these miners, the information we need to do it would come to us.
     
  8. sisle

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    I am amazed how people have a tendency to apply aspects of a philosophy to fit certain situations rather than take a position that is consistent.

    Don't be hypocritical now. It is the same thing. Everytime a doctor gives someone chemotherapy, it is messing with the natural order of things. That technology doesn't exist because it 'mystically; came to someone. It was because someone sought the knowledge. People shouldn't live much past 50. If we let 'the natural balance' rule as you describe, we'd still be huddling around campfires started by lightning strikes. Oh and the Boomer generation wouldn't be here.
     
  9. its_des10e

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    I'm not being a hypocrite, thank you. I'm not a doctor. To apply a doctor's rules to me is ridiculous. This is a rule that Pagans, Wiccans, and other like religions follow. It has nothing to do with this particular situation.

    If I had been given the information, psychically, to help the miners, then yes, it would be my duty. Otherwise, it's not. And in all truth, chemotherapy is nothing but poison that I've seen hinder a person's situation more than it has helped. Miracle of science, I think not.

    You don't know me or what I'm about, so please refrain from calling me things that I'm not.
     
  10. sisle

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    All I'm saying is that if someone has information that could save those miners and they do nothing because of some mystical prime directve, it's the same as if they killed them.

    I'll just ask this. You see a little girl walking in the street. You know she is about to be splattered by an oncoming car. Would you save her? Or would you 'send thoughts of love and light' so as not to mess with the natural order of things?
     
  11. its_des10e

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    Yes, I would save her! But then, I believe that if I was meant to be there at that moment to see her in the street, I was meant to do something.

    If I had a dream about the miners, knew something, or could give any information, I would do it... yes, without a doubt.

    I once had a friend's loved one visit me (he was passed away) and his message was sooo strong and he just kept being so persistant that I went against the idea I have that someone needs to ask for the info and I convinced him to ask me... :) We were both very glad he did. There are exceptions to every rule, of course.
     
  12. Pleiadian Dreams

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    I have the ability to put out a tractor beam to pull her back. It is a natural instinct to do so. If she gets hit inspite of this, it is her destiny. There is a bigger picture that our little mind can't fathom but only trust. It's a big leap of faith!

    I teleported to the Utah site. I was overwhelmed by the Love/Light energy pouring in from all over. I added my healing energy but was not allowed to go further. I have to trust that.
     

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