What The Hell Are We Doin...lets Start A Fuckin Revolution

The original point of a forum is for talking and debating. There is plenty of gatherings all around the world, fgrom what I have seen of The Rainbow Family, pity they never have one near me............but I don't like camping much anyway.

 

If you feel that you need to do more then simply talk, then try it. If you feel that you need to do more then simply talk but you don't think you can do any more, then don't. Everyone plays there part on whatever level with which they feel they can be comfortable.

Chris mate,
Not necessary to apologize.

peter

 

In this entire thread, this is what stands out the most to me:

I don't know who Albert Camus is (wiki, here I come!) but that makes damn good sense to me.

Yes, if we had a revolution today we'd all be shot in the streets (eg: Kent State, for one). But, flaming on a 15 year old who's got fresh eyes, and hope and energy for *something*, hardly seems like the loving thing to do. And wern't hippies about love? Yes we were. I've only been in this forum for about 3.5 weeks, but the overall feeling I get thus far is that of promoting brotherhood/knowledge, (despite some of the pot-stirring posters you run into now and then). "Teach your children well...." This is a child of ours. I'm thinking he/she's just had a really good lesson in lack of tolerance by posting this thread. And didn't we all just love intolerance in the 60s? No, we didn't.

 

hannah,

I know this will come as a shock to you but the hippies were not entirely about peace and love. Peace and love don't mean shit when your survival is threatened. All the love in the world isn't going to put food in your belly if you have no money with which to buy it and nobody has any to share with you. With no food in your belly, it's only going to be a short while before you will ever be able to spread peace and love to anyone ever again. (I'm just using food as an extreme example.)

From my experience and I don't ask anyone to agree with me, this is my point of view entirely; any hippie who was worth his or her salt either fought or expected to fight at one time or another. If you didn't or were not ready/expecting to, then there was only thing you could do...move back into society and abandon everything that you ever believed in, and leave the genuine hippies to duke it out with the forces of oppresion.

hannah, It it is too tiring for me to figure out your cryptic remarks and I have this uncomfortable feeling that they are designed to screw anyone who takes issue with them. I don't want to be a police detective. Please, if you want to make yourself understood, do it openly, so no one has to research an entire thread to find out what you are trying to say, unless of course that's the kind of thing people want on this site.

 

Zen Lunatic - thank you for your words. I do understand your statement that we all need to try and understand each other, if we want to bring about change. I thank you for saying that, a reminder we all need.

SafetyPin, you are reading WAY too much into what I'm saying, again. Not to mention you're giving me way too much credit for diabolical thinking. I have no idea where this paranoia about me comes from for you. Now you're saying I purposely mislead the members here by making cryptic remarks. I am now the bain of the site? Maybe if I'd have changed my screen name when you requested that I did, it would all be better.

 

I understand full well why Afghan men make the women wear birkas. You know hannah, some of the Afghan women do it willingly as a sign of respect for the men.

peace and love,
peter

 

ya know what we need? a JEDI. then he can repel all the riot squads coming to protests with the force.

seriously though. this thread should be deleted. it is exactly the same as "Make Way For A New Woodstock Revolution!" only shorter

 

grow up, mr. morrison.

 

it was sarcasm. it was supposed to show how kiddish their whole ideas of a revolution sound

 

revolution will never happen

 

While at first glance a revolution might seem appropriate, it seems to me that it wouldn't even make a dent in all the injustice, fear, and hatred in the world. There's not enough people that have woken up and realized that the system is not what it appears to be.
All we can do is make a small effort to spread the message of peace and love and try to get more people to realize that we can't chain ourselves to the will of an increasingly more corrupt system. If we can do that, we can really make a change.

You can accuse me of 'just talking' if you want. I don't mind that. But I can't let you inside my mind to see how much I really care.

 

you "are" a kid, Mr. Morrison.

 

Let's give the man a chance, ZEN LUNATIC, doesn't everyone deserve "one".

 

I totally agree with you man.

 

Smoke pot /and/ make music.

 

i dunno why so many of you guys are against violence.
yes it's bad, but what are you gonna do, blow kisses at all the bad guys with guns?

the people on top are stubborn, they think they are right.. you can't just convince them that they are wrong, their beliefs are planted deep in their psyche, you can't change them with words.
sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire, ya know? killing a bad guy isn't all that bad is it?

 

So just because it's hard to change, I can't be against it. Just because It may never change, I'm supposed to roll over and take part in it

 

first let me just say that i wasn't specifically talking about america.. i don't think a violent approach would be very beneficial at all, because people still have the power to change things in america without violence. it's more about awareness i think, there are too many ignorant..

but yea when it gets to the point that the populace is no longer ignorant and violence is being used on them, that's when they should rise with violence.. but like you said, i think strength also comes in numbers.

i guess the best solution is the one that leads to the least deaths possible. but death is inevitable, yet no one really wants to die. that's why if a government makes slight subtle changes, no one will really notice.. slowly control them in hopes of them never realizing i guess? most people aren't willing to die for a cause. i don't have a cause i'd readily die for today if i had to.

people will do almost anything for money, but no one is willing to die for anything anymore.. that's the mentality of this era

 

the only big problem with your scenario, is that most people will freak if cops started firing. most do not want to become martyrs. i just find it a little hard to imagine thousands of regular people, surrounded by SWAT, cops, military, whatever with guns, and just sitting there.

 

ive never been to a protest either...=\