Does Anyone kow "Up Against the Wall MortherFuckers"?

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  1. hemlock hollow

    hemlock hollow Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Hmm..a late bloomer! SafetyPin, where are you living now? Sorry we didn't meet in the 60's!
     
  2. SafetyPin

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    At the time I thought I was a late bloomer too, but I've revized my thinking since then because I've spent a lot of time around the mentally ill. Some of them never bloom at all, LOL, but it isn't really funny at all.

    I live in NJ, hemlockhollow. Do you?
     
  3. SafetyPin

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    hemlock hollow,

    I've been a little slow to getting around to it but thank you for your vote. Seven yeses now for "I am an Old Hippy" and no no's.
     
  4. wildjane

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    mfers didn't need leaders Ben or not. They also were not part of the angels, ever. they were not SDS,STP,either. If you ask me the purest of the pure MF is everett shapiro.
     
  5. hemlock hollow

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    SafetyPin, I am a retired RN, now living in the eastern Tennessee mountains. Our land backs up to the Cherokee National Forest. We have a small trout stream, lots of trees, a small veggie garden and lots of flowers. Wonderful place! Moved here last October from Florida. Like this better.
     
  6. hemlock hollow

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    WildJane, was everett shapiro in NYC?
     
  7. SafetyPin

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    Cool, hemlock hollow, especially the part about living in the mountains of Tennessee (whew, what a word to spell). Can you spell Mississippi.

    I've always regarded it as great source of pride that I grew up in NJ and there was trout stream right on our property. Stocked it and all. Don't look for it though, it's not there anymore, boo hoo, it's all dried up and more than likely filled with sludge and sewage from the suburban sprawl that took over Howel since I grew up there.

    I can never remember whether Howel is spelled with one "l" or two "l"s at the end but interestingly enough in a discussion about the MotherFuckers, (wow, that felt good to spell it out), Alan Ginsberg wrote a famous poem called "Howell", don't know how many "l"s you spell that with either. Don't remember what it was about either but I did read it. One more thing, I heard from an old timer in the hospital once that when Ginsberg used to come to this area of Jersey back in the 50's they used to say, "mud, shit, and blood, Ginsberg rides tonight."

    peace,
    peter
     
  8. SafetyPin

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    You weren't a psych. nurse, were you?
     
  9. hemlock hollow

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    The last job that I had was as a Hospice RN - plenty of psych nursing there! and by the way - Allen Ginsburg's work is spelled as it sounds "howl", like howling at the moon!
     
  10. 10000 lighr years

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    your right its up against the wall redneck mothers,thought it was merle haggard that wrote it but i dont remeber,jerry jeff spent a lot of time in austin

    at the armadillo,

     
  11. luvione

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    wildjane, my sister, who I love dearly,,, am splittin tonite for the gathering! I am so excited! Got drenched tryin to walk through the neighborhood to do some last minute stuff. MAN,,, give all my love to the rest of ya's,,,,,gonna go to the love at home, wish me luck!Sorry ya guys but I gots to say howdy to my sis!
     
  12. thelittlebear

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    Sitting bored & listing to a baseball game, I decided to search for "motherfucker family" for no specific reason and found this site. Joined right away. Really something to read the names of people & places I knew back when. Got a little discouraged at first when the posts started going way of base with Jerry Jeff Walker & stuff (his song was a late homage and joke on all of this). The song you're trying to think of is on the album Kick Out the Jams [motherfucker] by the revolutionary Ann Arbor band MC5 (hence the confusion with Detroit & Iggy Pop).

    Max's Kansas City was across the street from Union Square, just north of 14th St. It was a phony plastic place going for the "hip" mainstream look of Peter Max and the "musical" Hair. I only went there once when a Yippie buddy of mine wanted to meet there.

    The Electric Circus had formerly been The Dom, from the building's origins as the Dom Narawody Polski, the Polish National Home. It was a dance hall for the local Poles, complete with what later became known as a "disco ball." It started renting out for shows, such as a then little-known Mothers in 1966 and I suppose that became more lucrative than the tiny groups of peole who came for the polka dances. I was there through all of the above, but enough about me.

    Motherfuckers put out a little magazine for a bit (can't remember the name now, but I knew the editors) and collaborated with (I think it was) the Diggers (who hardly had a presence in NY, mostly Boston) on a Free Store on Ave. A that didn't last very long,. Yes, everything was free. It was across the street and up a block from the Peace Eye Bookstore, if that means anything to any of you.

    Man, haven't thought about any of this for a long time. I was pretty blissed out during this time period and my memory is sketchy.

    David Peel was a total poseur. We all laughed at John Lennon for being taken in by him. The guys in Peel's band used to beat up hippies just one year before they realized they could get laid for being hippies and so grew their hair long. Assholes.

    Like STP, MF Family & others, I went West in 1970 (many went earlier) and never returned.

    Oh, the Angels -- they were happy to provide security for any party that promised them drugs, alcohol or sex.
     
  13. jim kirby

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    no but i do know ..."balls to your partner arses to the wall
    you never been fucked on a saturday night, you never been fucked at all."
    luv ya!
     
  14. jagerhans

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    no, never heard of this. what's this motherfucker thing ?
     
  15. hemlock hollow

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    littleBear, hmmm...I was there at that time, lived on the corner of Second Ave and E. Third St., next to the Anderson Theatre. Then lived on E. Sixth St. bet. Ave. A and First Ave. I remember the Peace Eye Bookstore and Ed Sanders and the rest of the Fugs Band. I remember Paul Krassner and his loft around the corner from me. There was a filmmaker named Wolf that lived across the street on e.3rd. Hated Max's and you are right - plastic people. Hung out a lot w/Bob Fass at WBAI.
    Finally moved from there when I was to get married (another story, another time)(didn't last long).
    Now live in NE TN in the mountains and love it. I hate cities and the traffic after all these years. and yup, still crazy.

    gl in hemlock hollow
     
  16. busy

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    This was the name of the band and there was not a song called Up against the wall motherfuckers but this was what Peel would yell out at the begining of a concert to get the crowd warmed up.
    I remember well attending some of these gigs
    I was a runaway back in the day and stayed with the STP Family,if I recall correctly it was on East Third Street between Ave.A and B and we lived upstairs from the Hells Angles who had the basement and the first floor.It was safer than any other block on the LES and the junkies would stay away because the bikers ran them off.
    I used to hang out at the IT cafe just around the corner from the Filmore and the Cafe Wa.
    I remember Little Brother,STP John and Zackery and a friend named Turtle who hung around us who was a friend of Pig Pen from the Dead.
    I remember that when the Dead played at the Filmore they would put on a free concert the next day at Sheep Medows in Central Park.We had a blast!
    There were not many people at these free concerts back then.
    I spent time on the LES in 65 again in 66/67/68.
    Does any else know these places or people?
    Everyone called me Semore because I wore thick glasses and they wanted to know if I was seeing more.I would say I was Semore do less or other times that I was do more,see less.
    I and some friends ended up at a commune in Northern MA that was the last house in Mass.You could throw a rock from the dooryard and it would land in Vermont.
    We rented the house and 430 acres of land from some Monks for 5 dollars a month if I recall correctly.
    We lived very passive live and were into organic gardening,playing tunes and were pretty much back to the landers.
    The commune broke up when some druggies moved in and the place went downhill from there.
    The time I was there brings back some of my best memories.To this day I am still a big organic gardener.
    We all played tunes and some of the people formed a band called Jacksonville Sage and played some gigs around Mt.Snow ski Area in Vermont. End
     
  17. SafetyPin

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    MotherFucker "Family?"
     
  18. luvione

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    Jerry Jeff quit drinkin, and doesnt take requests on stage, at least not in Arkansas. LOL,,, swut they tell me. Now he used to have his head right under them kegs when Stevie Ray Vaughn would play free concerts for the Peoples Community Clinic in Austin in the late 70's. The beer was a quarter a cup, Shiner I beleave. Ya'll keep havin fun here!

    Truth & Light = LOVE



     
  19. luvione

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    I knew this was u! The baseball is what gave ya up! A sister recognized me first sentence she read, cuz I write like I talk!LOL! So baby, heres hopin we connect, I'd love to hang out wit ya! ; ) Is always nice to hear your voice as well! But I way miss ya,,,,I get tired of everybody bein so spread out! oh well! Welcome to this very cool place, alot of good stuff comes outta this site, connected with old and new, is NICE!

    Sweet Dreams Darlin,
    Your Luvi Sis!!
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  20. SafetyPin

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    not trying to be contrary, lilbear, just in my nature to say what I know. I didn't leave the city until 1971 and STPers lived in the loft on 3rd street between 1st and second Ave. at that time. Don't know how long they lived there before that.
     

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