Help! The Rainbow Gathering at the Carson Nation Forest in New Mexico is being evicted by the Forest Service and has been given a one hour vacate or be arrested notice! Two days ago, the FS dropped off a permit for water disposal or something along those lines because our “group” exceeds 75 people. Since there is no "official" leader, of course, a permit could not be signed. About 2 hrs ago (~6 pm), the FS came back very aggressively ,with assault rifles, and said we had one hour to pack up and leave the forest or we would be cited, arrested, etc.. Two of us have driven into town to alert the local media and the rest of the family to what is happening to us here. We need some lawyers out here to address the issues for us. Seven Forest service vehicles with dogs, one state police, and one sheriff, as well as a white unmarked van stand ready right now to arrest and harass the rainbow in Carson. One elder, Kalef, was arrested this afternoon. Please help and come to the Carson National Forest. They came with assault rifles on unarmed women and children! They stated that because the permit goes unsigned we are being forced to leave. Rainbow warriors are constructing a barricade of cars to block forest service action threatened against us, (tickets and towing). The gathering is located near Tres Piedres (Hwy 285 and 64). N 285 10 miles, west of FS 87 10-12 miles, left at FS 93 for 3 miles, right at FS 88A for a mile or so. A copy of this message is being sent to every online Rainbow group and whatever local media we can reach. Please spread the word of what is happening here in New Mexico to every online discussion group, the media, etc... Call your congress people! What is happening here is wrong and un-constitutional! Sensei
my mom was just there. its pretty bad and i'm from taos so i know the cops it was actually them and not the forrest service since no permit was signed the forrest service wa sordered to hand the problem over to the state authorities
I'm going to do what I can first thing in the AM to get a hold of a lawyer. Please keep us updated!!!! I too emailed the Governer. If you are short on time, feel free to copy and paste and make any of your own revisions to this and send to the link below: http://www.governor.state.nm.us/emailchoice.php?mm=6 Dear Governor Bill Richardson, I write you with a plea to get involved to keep the peace at a peacable gathering which has been threated with police violence. By the time you read this, the violence may have affected many innocent people already. If you believe in our right to gather peaceably on public land, you will understand why there are those who work to preserve it. If a right goes unused, it can be slowly eroded. Many people of all walks of life are right now gathering near Tres Piedres to honor the land and the right to gather in peace upon it. No one is a leader of this peaceable gathering; no one (in principle) is excluded to join with those already gathering; no one is gathering to pose a threat or nuisance to the general population of your state. However, some in authority (please if you can find out who) have decided that the particular gathering of people near Tres Piedres is illegal. The crime of those on the National Forest land there? These people did not sign a permit based on the unconstitutional law passed in 1995 specifically for the government to harrass "rainbow gatherers". I say, the police at this point on the land should deem themselves illegally there as soon as they set themselves up in a relationship with those already gathering for peace. Police are the peace keepers after all!! You may be inclined to agree that the police are obligated to enforce the law as written so that gatherers have to enforce their First Amendment rights in court. I would be inclined to agree as well if the officers acted in peace- but please look into this, because reports speak of enforced deportment at the point of automatic rifles in force far exceeding the "threat" of unarmed families, including children who permanently reside in New Mexico. Governors have stepped up in the past to quell the heavy hand of overzealous law enforcement toward these gatherings. Please help these people so they may stay and heal the land of their and law enforcement's imprint, and safely, peacefully move on to the next spot of land to excercize the rights granted by our forefathers. In zealous gratitude for all you can do,
i just got this morning, i know its a wee bit late, but ive spent the past hour spreading the word, lets all pray and om for the safety of out family
heard that folks were patty wagoned away 12 at a time, but no word on the truth of that. I know there were wee ones there and don't know if they got out in time... so I'm looking myself and will call on it tomorrow, too.
Makes me hate this country even more . . . Land of the free my ass. Laws are supposed to protect you (if even that) not control you. Im on the opposite side of the country, but I hope all goes well for everyone
damn I wish I was out there to lead help where it is needed. I will ohm for phamily tonight. Keep us updated when any of you can!
OK, here's the latest that I've gotten: There were not near as many arrests are were being rumored, 9 is the number I heard and most have been released. Two people are still locked up, Kalif & one other person; hopefully they will both be released tomorrow. Due to a lot of hard work by some very dedicated folks, it seems that as of today things may be worked out for the NM regional. A ranger showed up with an operating plan, communications are open.
i just got this e-mail this morning from one of the yahoo groups, yeah only 9 got arrested, just read it and you shall see loving you all From AGR. Karin Zirk <kzirk@earthlink. net> wrote: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:04:59 -0700 To: kzirk@earthlink. net From: Karin Zirk <kzirk@earthlink. net> Subject: Regional Gatherings and the USFS Recently, some folks in New Mexico focalized a regional gathering. For reasons I am in the dark on, they chose not to try to utilize the method used for the Annual Gathering in Arkansas (working with resource people ahead of time to find a site that met the needs of Rainbow and the USFS in order to avoid the permit requirement and have the ability to work out an unsigned operating plan). The situation between the gathering and the USFS became very confrontational. It has been somewhat resolved now, but I wanted to pass on some thoughts from Garrick and Barry regarding the situation in the hopes that future regional gatherings can utilize the operating plan method. Love, Karin ************ *******Begin forwarded message FROM GARRICK***** ********* *** Hello Colorado, Just a few words here to share…without going into the long bedraggled story of what just happened here in New Mexico, but some of the results could be, could be, useful to the upcoming Colorado regional. First, in NM no one, repeat, no one, so much as knocked on the FS’s door – and the ranger district hq is right on the way in to the selected site. No one did any part of the two-way street of cooperation: No one made any notification; No one went to meet with any resource people; No one met with any resource people about an operating plan, nor about any considerations for site use/planning/ rehab or protection. Nothing. And when there were 150 people on site and the leo’s showed up, then people came hurrying down to phone me for help. What is this?? If a group wants to do direct action, civil non-violent disobedience, fine. Do that. But don’t come a-runnin’ after the crap hits the fan, asking for negotiations to save the situation. We can’t have it both ways. Even so, there were a bunch of last minute dialogues. No question if there had been more time, we could have steered the event into legal territory. As it was, first the leo’s issued tickets, maybe about 25 of them, folks scattered into the woods and the leo’s gave everybody an hour [it was late in the day] to leave, an eviction order. The next day they came back and arrested a total of nine people. All people who had gotten tix the day before; and they gave out about 25 more tickets and they blocked the road turning everyone who came up there away. This wasn’t a checkpoint. This was a closure, period. SP – who was in town, then met with the deputy forest supervisor and gave the FS an application for special use, Not a permit application, technically, because he offered no name-of-person- who-will- sign-on-behalf- of-anybody. He did give a contact person name, but didn’t sign the application for special use on the line at the bottom. The Deputy Forest Supervisor [who was the district ranger during the very sweet nm 1995 annual rainbow] told Sp he couldn’t accept the application because even it wasn’t signed. That was on Thursday nite, after the first ticketing, but before people were arrested and the road blocked. The next afternoon Sp went back to the Forest Supervisor’s office and signed the application for special use, still leaving the place for Who would sign a Permit marked “Not Applicable” and attaching documentation about why this goes against our creed. Deputy Supervisor Dan Rael said they would consider this; and began drawing up an Operating Plan for use. Still, he indicated that he needed approval from ‘upstairs’ to allow this. After Sp phoned me about this, I called the D.C. offices and mapped out the whole story-thus-far as best I could. They said they would consider this and call Deputy Supervisor Rael and call me back too. Right. This was late Friday afternoon, and by the time anybody was able to do anything, everybodies’ offices were closed for the day, really for the weekend. And by Friday late in the day, the arrests had already been made; the tickets had been issued; the way in had been closed. What can I say? Too little, too late. Still, there’s more. The numbers onsite dwindled to less than 75 people. Folks camped in diverse places: other smaller groups elsewhere on the Carson Forest; some on private lands; some right across from the ranger district hq; some went home; some boarded their spaceships and returned to the Starfleet; etc. But by early Sunday, that’s today, several other things had occurred. 1. There was a resource ranger onsite with an approved Operating Plan. 2. Some people were drifting back onto the site. 3. I received a phone message from D.C. saying that they had “left the him [the deputy forest supervisor] a message hoping he could work thru this” and hoping that everything would work out well. It’s hard to interpret exactly what that means, but it sure isn’t an “I’m sorry, but we can’t work with you on this” response. I think it clearly indicates that An application for special use properly filled out, with the place for the Holder’s name marked as “not applicable” and an operating plan substituted for the holders name and signature can be a valid accommodation of the unique style of assembly called rainbow gatherings. We should make use of this, and certainly try to utilize this as an alternative manner to either the permit structure or the civil disobedient action. This is a workable middle ground – at least until we can get a procedure for using the operating plan like we had in Arkansas accepted for use across the board. Can I say this again? We could try to use an application for special use coupled with an operating plan (instead of a signature on a permit) as an alternative to either civil disobedience or a permit. I believe Forest Supervisors’ offices may be given the green light to go ahead with this. REMEMBER THE AGGRESSIVE ACTIONS BY THE LEOS IN ARK WERE DESIGNED TO GET US TO REJECT THE OPERATING PLAN AS A SOLUTION. WE ARE PLAYING INTO THEIR HANDS BY SEEING THE ROUGH LEO BEHAVIOR IN ARK AS THE WHOLE PICTURE. THEY WANT US TO REJECT THE COMPROMISE OPERATING PLAN SOLUTION – WHICH WE USED SUCCESSFULLY FOR OVER A DECADE AT SOME OF THE BEST GATHERINGS ANYONE CAN REMEMBER – THEY WANT US TO REJECT THAT AND SEE ALL THE FOREST SERVICE IN AN EVIL LIGHT SO THEY, THE LEO’S CAN RETAIN COMPLETE CONTROL INSTEAD OF LETTING IT SLIP BACK INTO THE HANDS OF THE RESOURCE RANGERS’ PEOPLE. DON’T LET THIS HAPPEN. So I pass this along to Colorado as an idea, that someone could give an application like sp did in nm this past week; or like plunker did in mt 2000; and use the operating plan in place of the signature. It’s not quite the same as what was done in Ark., but it is a step forward in the peacemaker’s direction. If the fed’s want to issue an “authorization” or a “permit” that’s their business, that’s their paperwork. If no one signs as an agent for the rest of us; if no one signs as a ‘designated signer”; if no one signs a permit well then that’s in keeping with the creed that we have at the core of our beliefs. Feel free to pass this along or email me back about it. There’s much more to tell…and the most important part I left out is how completely wonderful the gathering was before the leo’s went and busted it up. And that’s the truth of it. garrick ps. Everybody arrested except Kalif and Pennie are out on the own recognizance now. Those remaining two are headed to the Sandoval Federal Detention center and we're hoping they will get released tomorrow [monday] also on their own recog. pps. i enclose barry's rap on "Notification" : ******Begin forwarded message from Barry******* ****** howdy, yep, NOTIFICATION. ... in the Original Invitation, 1972, it reads (in part): "all nations and national leaders... our of respect" This includes the USA i.e. People of the United States and (their) Forest Service Every single Petition and/or Request for 'accommodation" that I have made, over the years, ALWAYS INCLUDES NOTIFICATION. ... even when threatened or under fire... I have always advocated contacting with the Resource Forest Service... letting the PEOPLE i.e. of the US, know... this is minimum respect... (Resource Stewards of the Forest Service are hired "by these people". i.e. to show minimum RESPECT.. through, at least, calling in for RESERVATION of SITE... NOTIFICATION -- on the part of whatever individual/s who seek ACCESS for SPECIAL USE OF NATIONAL FOREST and/or PUBLIC LANDS... and to meet the ACTUAL CONCERNS OF FOREST SERVICE STEWARDS of NATIONAL FOREST... the OPERATING PLAN -- mutually worked out between Forest Service Resource and Recreation (and) LEO's WITH the ASSEMBLED PEOPLE (over 74 or more)... An APPLICATION (by any attending individual/s) is NOTIFICATION. .. hope things work out... this time in New Mexico... IF this is a "rainbow-style gathering" then it shall be "accommodated" per October, 2006, email from Mark Rey addressed to my concerns.... I support this action for all the reasons noted, per gb's email... COMMENT ON DIRECT ACTION: IF people are going to engage in DIRECT ACTION i.e. assemble without notification and then defend the rights of the people to assemble then any such individual/s should, in fact, be clear in what they are engaged in... i.e. DIRECT ACTION usually entails action, then face-off with authorities, then "(civil disobedience) civil obedience" meaning to the First Amendment, Constitution. .. Note: also, usually, it means that people thus engaged agree on tactics of non-violence, mutual massive arrests, court movies, etc... Direct Action is or can be very POSITIVE.... Going for, or speaking up, for Direct Action, i.e. occupy national forest, see what happens (in this case).... then, changing ones mind, in mid-stream, and wanting to go for "accommodation" is a huge error.... one way or the other works best... informed people knowing what they are into (or getting into) is even better... I speak up here for CLARITY... and MINIMUM RESPECT, for all other people, and minimum respect in working things out with the Resource Forest Service... IF you are seeking "accommodation" .... STAND UP i.e. NOTIFICATION. .. please.... Direct Action calls for moral and personal courage... and firing up people to jump into a situation without the information concerning what is likely to happen is something else... Please DO CLARITY, for sake of the generations. .. thanks, barry, plunker montana, rainbow family tribe... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
yeah I'm sorry now to have helped spread a rumor of fear from what somebody thought was a reliable source (i.e. a cop)... some people have delusions of grandeur I guess and want to be one to say that bad shit is going down, make you afraid... that said, 9 arrested is hardly an "only" in my book, it's probably almost 10% of those out there, and more got tickets, and more got guns in their faces, so this whole gig of living free in this country is getting harder and harder.
i was in council , NM , when the officer's surrounded it . one said 'you still here ?' and arrested 5 more by means of a 'pick' . after that most folks went to a nearby brother's place , and such as i just hitched on to a Colorado gathering i've yet to find . hello from Durango ! always , itsa bless-ed trail . wA~A~A~ t'iO zzzranbO!
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