When did it become okay for men

Men dont think this way....

 

I agree im a min effort kind of guy, i mean. Men have a fair amount of pressure to become something to make a contrabution to the world, Ladies dont have to do that they can just grow up and mooch of their husband wait till we are old and us our poorly constructed legal system to steal the house,car and moneys that the man has worked hard for . as males.. We are pused by sociaty to be all we can be ... When some of us just want to be ... I mean what happend to chilling girls dont wanna chill theys days?

Im 19 and live at home I work 40hours a week and i dont go to school , and i dont drive a car . And it isnt becuz im spoild my parents are broke and i pay for the things i want. im just not to concernd about all that I dont worry about a car, everything i need is on the same street, my weed, my freinds, food , job, stores for videos and cloths. And as far as schools concernd ill be paying for it , So untill i know what im intrested in i wont be their.

i know im not the most ambitious person but is that really such a problem

 

see this is different though. You don't expect your parents to provide you with things you can't provide yourself with. I am assuming you also want to find a girl who also values a chill lifestyle.

What I have an issue with is guys who don't feel like they have to become educated or be a provider yet they EXPECT to land a good looking and motivated girl without having to do any work to get her and they live at home, don't work a 'real' job and don't go to school full-time. Like I said before there is a difference between feeling entitled and being spoiled.
And you're right women do have the ability to find a guy and never have to work a job again, but unless youre in love that's called prostitution and that's a 24 hour job and a sad life imo. Who seriously wants to live vicariiously through their husband anyway? Also, child birth and carrying a baby for nine months I am guessing isn't easy. I am sure as hell not going to try and do it all, but I am assuming you are not considering being a mother not working and 'mooching off your husband'. If so you may want to never consider having a children.

sorry, im sick and have a fever and am in a pissy mood.

 

I would only consider the mother a mooch if she didnt do anything around the house, i mean taking care of kids is work, sometimes hard work but if i as the father have to pay for everything, like... the house the food , the clothes urs mine and the child and all other aspects of life, then u better do something at home if u dont want to work and be a housewife.. be a HOUSEwife. i was referring to the ones that just get knocked up and hang out with there friends... n dont clean or do anything.....


haha were bitching about the same things... silly me

 

Personally, I couldn't stay home and do nothing. Even though I don't want to work when I have kids I would need to stay in the game by being on a board of directors or working part-time or being a special events chair. I am equally as society and me oriented as I am family oriented...if not more.

Guys aren't that great at giving validation for staying at home (like displayed here in this thread, people have assumptions about full-time mothers) and I am someone who needs a lot of praise and recognition and have always tended to hold jobs that fulfill that and my family praises me out the ass. So if I wasn't working I would def need an outlet to enhance my self-esteem.

Also, I am educated and experienced enough to help build a financial foundation so I would be able to stay home in the future. I mean for some people it takes a lot of planning to have gotten up to the point of staying home. So even if a monther is not currently working none of us know how hard she worked in the past to be able to be a full-time mother in the present. It's unfair to assume that perhaps that security blanket in the bank wasn't produced by her former work, partially or even solely.

 

I got a job... haha

 

I don't pay a 'man tax'. I live on a sailboat, that's where my money goes...

Boats, yes...babies, no...everybody gets their choices

Gettin ready to go to Jamaica, mon...

 

good for you with your choice. you are not what I was describing at all. This is what I was describing:

20-something (or worse above 20-something), living at home or in a place paid for by his parents, does not have a job or go to school and takes his parents for granted, thinking he shoudn't have to work or be required to do jack and expects to meet another 20-something-year-old girl who has her shit together and is relativley attractive.
If you choose not to date that is completley different as what I was describing is men who seek to date way above them and have nothing to offer the girl in terms of a future or fun in the present

 

I don't pay a "man tax" = I am dateless ... hmmm interesting thought process

here's another one

Paying for dates + Your photo outside the NV "Bunny Ranch" = Coincidence

What a sad life the dirt dwellers live



This is a Public Service Announcement



Young men should expect more out of life than breeding and feeding



And not all women have fat feet...know somebody out there appreciates that

It is a 'Men's Issues' board after all

Ciao

 

hahaaaaaaaaa Your insult to me is that I have fat feet? that hurts man-that completley un-does all of my self-esteem from everything I have accomplished. You know what? I have chubby hands too...it's tradgic. I can't believe I go out in public like this.
I don't see how my fiancee paying for dates and us taking a funny picture makes me a hooker? I am educated, published, get put up in 5-star hotels by the company I consult for and am capable of making a decent amount when I do work full-time again. I don't think my fiancee would be with me if I was a gold digger or whorish. My engagement ring is prob worth more than your car because I am a good catch and am well rounded and because he knows I will be a good wife (not a whore as you put it). If he wanted a whore he prob would be choosing to marry someone with a little more sexual experience than me...
Don't insult me or my relationship just because you are bitter that you can't live up to the standards of what a man should be.
You're right this is a men's forum and there are a lot of nice, good men who post here and don't feel the need to call someone a whore because of their gender beliefs.

 

I think it is related to the huge increase in income taxes and housing prices coupled with the economic recession.[



QUOTE=Bella Désordre]to be soooo dependent on their parents and feel like they are owed everything in the world. I am not talking about teenagers. I am talking about 20-something year-old men who act like 10-year-olds. I was even with a 30-year-old who felt like his dad owed him money.
When did this become okay and what kind of women do they end up marrying?
I am fed-up with people in this world who just take in general, but this whole grown man dependency thing has me baffled.[/QUOTE]