Eating Beef worse than Driving!

Discussion in 'Global Warming' started by skip, Jul 19, 2007.

  1. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Of all the things a person can do to help fight global warming, one of the best is to stop eating meat. Not just because of the methane they emit, but because of all the energy that goes into producing a pound of beef!

    So if you needed a reason to stop eating beef, this is one of the best besides your health, the environment, the politics, the cruelty to animals, the economics, etc...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/19/nbeef119.xml
     
  2. Nalencer

    Nalencer Dig Yourself

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    Well, I don't eat beef, but the idea that it helps stop global warming is a crock. We could go back to the stone age and stop driving, shut down all factories and everything else that emits CO2 (besides natural emissions, which dwarf human emissions anyway), and it wouldn't make any difference, because global warming isn't caused by CO2 emissions. Do some research.
     
  3. JibberJabber

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    If it wasn't a good thing to eat beef, it wouldn't taste delicious.

    Methane emissions from cows endangering the environment. LOL. Some folks is just crazy.
     
  4. Any Color You Like

    Any Color You Like Senior Member

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    It's a good thing for your organism to eat beef, perhaps, so the body reminded it's taste as good. But what your tongue doesn't know is that humans have developped into large societies capable of raising an abnormal amount of beefs.
     
  5. Nalencer

    Nalencer Dig Yourself

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    Well, I guess that means all the nutritional data on potato chips and soda is null and void, because most of them taste pretty good.
     
  6. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Not much point in posting this, skip:( not meaning to be a pessimist, but i think this is just a bit TOO much of a VERY inconvenient truth for people at this time

    Youre right though, of course. The meat industry is one of the biggest problems for this planet. Ive been vegan for years but ive known even extremely intelligent and reasonable people to refuse to listen to this
     
  7. mortes

    mortes Senior Member

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    Beef is pretty gross unless you get it in steak form, but even then its not that natural, that's why I usually shy away from it. Chicken tastes good (unless its like heavily prepackaged and loaded with chemicals, which is usually the case anyways, but I digress.)

    I don't have enough money to get my protein from random sources other than chicken and fishes. I like the taste anyways, sardines are fucking sweet. Not eating meat won't stop mr. fat ass from clearing a whole cow off of his plate so I don't know what you're trying to accomplish, you are after all talking to a bunch of vegan hippies :D
     
  8. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Well, youre obviously not vegan. Im sure the majority here are not too

    I am extremely poor. I still manage to get protein just fine, i have regular check-ups. I need to be everso careful about what i eat and when because of a medical condition, so trust me, i know

    "Not eating meat wont stop other people" is a silly argument

    BUT this thread was about beef, anyway, not meat in general. I mean really the problem IS meat in general. If we stopped eating beef theyd just create more pigs which would have the same environmental impact, and thered still be all the other animals and the pollution they cause

    But if mentioning other meats creates a "i cant go vegan because..." kind of thread then i was wrong to mention them. Yes, beef is bad for the environment. And yes, on a side note, veganism can be done cheaply
     
  9. themnax

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    i'm sorry but i must dissaggree on this one. though i do aggree wholeheartedly with the undisrability of all those aspects of it you mention. what you say would be true if the problem were how much land and space we occupy, rather then how much is affected by our way of living. the problem IS how much carbon we are unfixing from natural life proccessess and dumping into the air and oceans, and THAT comes somewhere near half from the use of combustion to propell transportation and the other nearly half from the use of combustion to generate electrical energy.

    how MUCH energy we consume, has infinitely less to do with it, then how that energy is procuced. the concern with levels of consumption has to do demand being claimed to require that use of combustion.

    at any rate, between cars and combustion for energy production, very few percentage points are left over for anything else to carry the burden of responsibility. nor, do to the, relative to cars and burning things to make electricity, small percentage of all other culpability put togather, can dealing with anything else alone, without tackling the cars, oil, coal problem, accomplish a very large percentage of solving anything.

    i think you've been had if you immagine that it can.

    the important thing though, is that we CAN have our computers and refrigerators, and even other forms of mechanical transportation, and all the comfort zone these things bring us, WITHOUT HAVING to burn anything other then to heat and cook with.

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  10. hitomi

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    2.2lb that's too much.
    Oh my god, I didn't knew this thanks for the tip.
     
  11. skip

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    That is ONLY one problem, not THE problem.

    Methane emissions are possibly even a BIGGER problem than CO2. They are increasing faster, and they pose a much greater danger to the planet (its toxic and inflammable and isn't reabsorbed by nature).

    And there are many, many other issues related to raising BEEF.

    Like:
    The MILLIONS OF ACRES OF VIRGIN FOREST being cut down each year to provide more grazing land for cattle. There's a HUGE loss for our carbon sink.

    Like:
    The MILLIONS OF ACRES OF LAND being used ONLY to grow food for animals like cattle. That land can grow 30 times as much HUMAN FOOD if it wasn't used for ANIMAL FOOD! That's an incredibly inefficient use of that land. We could FEED THE WORLD and END HUNGER if we just took America's BEEF off the menu!

    Like:
    The detrimental health effects upon our society of eating so much FUCKING BEEF! FAT LAZY Americans aren't born that way. They become that way from eating tons of MEAT laced with CARCINOGENS, HORMONES and ANTIBIOTICS. The hormones in particular are used to FATTEN BEEF, and they also FATTEN IGNORANT AMERICANS who haven't a clue what they're eating.

    I could go on with the political, economic and other impacts of BEEF on human beings and the planet, but my words would just be LOST ON IGNORANT PEOPLE.
     
  12. Elijah

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    sounds like more propaganda from PETA to me. if we were not meant to consume beasts that walk on all fours we wouldn't have digestive systems capable of breaking down animal proteins. you know what else could cut down on world hunger? if people would slaughter their sacred cows they probably wouldn't go hungry. methane and carbon and carbon dioxide are NOt pollutants. somehow i doubt vegans and vegetarians are immune to getting cancer. eat right, excercise, die anyways.
     
  13. treehuggerT

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    That's exactly why I've almost completely cut animal products from my diet. It seems to me to be such a simple way to cut pollution. A lot easier and cheaper than buying a hybrid or trying to ride a bus around SoCal. I really don't understand why this isn't getting more press than it is. Maybe Al Gore likes his beef...
     
  14. Elijah

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    or maybe buying tofu is more expensive than ground beef is? it's just not financially practical to go out and buy rice dream simply to replace a gallon of milk.
     
  15. MikeE

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    Its not getting more press because in most of the world, one does not have the choice to become vegetarian. One eats or one dies. Most people do not have the vegitarian dietary option.
     
  16. dd3stp233

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    "Eating Beef is less green than driving" - is the title from the article. That is only if a person defines "green" as having to do with global warming and greenhouse gases. The article didn't mention anything about actual "pollution" of toxic chemicals into the environment from auto exhaust. Sucking on a tailpipe will kill a person within minutes from the toxic fumes. Car exhaust contains carcinogens such as formaldehyde and benzene, along with polycyclic hydrocarbons, nitrogen dioxide, Carbon monoxide, Sulphur dioxide, etc,etc, none of which are good for humans or any other lifeforms and can and does cause a whole plethora of horrible illnesses and deaths (24,000 premature deaths a year in the UK alone, is the current estimate - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/medical_notes/336738.stm).
     

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