Who here Is or.. who here IS NOT still participating in our disposable World? Society has trained us to use and then throw away! > so basically i was saddend the other day.. i was walking home and inbetween my house and STARBUCKS which is just a couple blocks... I counted and picked up 15+ starbucks cups on the ground! It made me Really realize how using disposable everything is gross! Sure.. the stuff i use goes into the garbage and out to the landfill! but we are running out of Land to FILL ... So.. . I was thinkin We should try to get out of this disposable world... i know its hard.. everywhere youl get a papercup and a plastic straw... but! say if your getting coffee or something... use a Reusable Cup, or mug... im sure gonna... il carry my Tumbler in my bag from now on! who else is already involved in this kinda activity? Who is as discusted and/or Saddened as I am?
that's why i carry my own canvas messenger bag, because i hate to have to use plastic bags for this reason. im planning a camping trip soon and it bothers me how a lot of my food will have it's own container that won't be biodegradeable. i'll have to bring my food into the woods, and walk out with the trash. i may just carry around some sort of sealable mug or something. something i'll look in to.
Great im not alone on the carrying a bag around! haha I just hate how we've evolved into this disposable world.
I just got my family to buy reusable canvas bags for our groceries. I hate seeing all of those plastic bags being thrown away!!! I used to work for H-E-B (local grocery store) and we literally ran through at least twenty boxes of bags PER DAY. I agree with you ziggyfly. I advise people to bring in your own cups to coffee shops. As long as you pay, many business don't care if you bring in your own mug. I also reuse water bottles. Sometimes I fill them up again with water, other times I put my homemade shampoo in them. Basically, anything that can be washed should be reused.
You are not alone. I get disgusted at how throw away our society is. I am trying to change. I have stopped using paper towels and bought some cloth towels to clean up spills and use for napkins. I use old shirts and socks for cleaning. I don't accept plastic bags at the store if I only buy a few things I can easily carry. I still need to move to reuseable bags though. I rarely buy coffee or fast food on the go so I don't really have to deal with those issues. We will be using cloth diapers when the baby comes a long. Unfortunately you should avoid reusing plastic water bottles, atleast for water. Chemicals that are not good for you can leach out of them into the water. Try getting some nonplastic water bottles, such as stainless steel ones.
Hmm i always carry a fork with me What became of that company who made packaging from corn starch which was just like plastic but would biodegrade in about 4 months? Sounds great to me, it could be used for food products at supermarkets so when they throw out old food they could compost it.
Oh yeah, I remember those bags, they seem to have disappeared though! Surprise! Where I work, it's all disposible cup, knives, forks everything and we go through soo much, Don't understand why they still think it is better! If you are going to have disposible things, at least use it again and again untill it breaks!! I get so annoyed when people use something once and then throw it away then get another one an hour later!
When we were kids you made good spending money collecting bottles and getting a nickel each for them. Now you just throw them out! WTF IS THAT?!?!?!
Why is this such an "important" issue to you? Do you really think that the planet or nature or whatever "cares" one way or the other? If somebody is buying their coffee at Starbucks, then they must think they have quite a lot of "disposable" income. That's what the corporations tell us. "Buy! Buy! Buy! and then you will be happy." Isn't that pretty much the jest of most every TV commecial? If we don't consume, consume, consume, then how can the greedy unaccountable corporations squeeze more and more money out of us? By the twisted logic of the corporateer, well at least according to the book Corporateering, the market=society, and there is nothing important that doesn't involve commerce (obviously? not true BTW), and so that would seem to imply that to not always be shopping for new and perhaps "disposable" stuff, is not being very patriotic. Even iPods are "disposable." Why are those little "toy" computers so popular? Why would I buy a "toy" PDA or iPod, when I have a real computer? What for do I need that stuff so portable? Why are those MP3 players so popular? Don't people know that such gadgets rarely last more than a few years before being dropped, malfunctioning, becoming obsolete, being left in a hot car, or otherwise losing your overly expensive songs, to yet rebuy the songs again? Even computers don't last all that long. Then the new computer won't run the old software, so software even is "disposable." I used to buy the plastic-coated paper plates, because the paper plates soak through, and the styrofoam plates turn funny shapes in the microwave oven. The plastic-coated paper plates perform the best, but are the most expensive disposable option. Then I thought I like real solid plates better, so maybe I can find time to wash my dishes? Then I didn't find time to wash the dishes, so I just eat off of the same dirty plates or microwavable disposable plastic trays all the time. No funny stuff grows on them, because they dry out all the time anyway. But consider there is a positive side to our "disposable" world. That is the magic lower cost of mass-production. As they make more, costs seem to drop over time. The rule of thumb, according to Consumer Reports now, is around $150. If it costs less than $150 to replace something, one is often better off buying a new one, than seeking a costly repair. Why? Because those products roll off of mass-production assembly lines, making thousands or millions of them, often with underpaid foreign near-wage-slave labor, while a repair requires some highly-paid technicial working on one product at a time, for what? at least $20/hour. And often, repair money is poorly spent, because other parts of the item may be nearly ready to wear out or break, and often by the time a product needs a repair, it's nearly obsolete anyway. And often old products, they can't get parts for. Parts aren't standardized enough, and as technology improves, old standards become obsolete or the old parts don't fit the new models anymore. No, we aren't running out of land for landfills, but that really shouldn't be the point. I have long been more frugal than that, and in comparison, most people are incredibly wasteful, and buy so much junk that they don't even need, and they could use some of that money for saving up for the children, for early retirement, or for funding charity and missions. But please, don't tell me I can't throw away disposable plates and utensils at a picnic. I prefer to wash dishes at home, but not where I don't have time or handy hot water and a sink, for example maybe, when camping.
im not talking about ipods and stuff... And im not saying we can Really get away from it or what ever... But... cutting down on the amount of bags from the grocery store and cups and napkins from fast food vendours might help slow down pollution? > i dono wat kind of a city you live in.. but mine is pritty discusting for the small size of it. As for the answer as to "why" this is soo important to me.. is that well i guess im Getting tired of seeing and picking up Garbage of this nature.. Plastic!... And sure if you think nature is a spirit.. it would care.. if you dont.. then well i guess it hasnt a say.
i agree with ziggyfly. the area i live in isnt that big either and i always seem to find trash on the sides of the roads that consist of plastic bags, plastic rappers, bottles, and cans. let alone the fact it isnt good for the environment it's absolutely disgusting to look at. you may say we aren't running out of areas for landfill and you might be correct, but why would you want to waste more land for such a purpose? whenever we drive by the dump in my town it sickens me, seeing massive mounds sticking out of the ground with grass growing over them. its nasty. as well as bags, i also had my mom get resuable ones from a couple different grocery stores. not only do we use them for groceries but we use them to carry things so we don't have to use plastic bags. i'm not saying im the perfect posterchild for recycling because im not, but if everyone did a part it would made a big difference!!
Thanks Sunshine! thats why I was kinda trying to say! hahah If Each of us do our part, even a Little bit.. think of the impact it could have!
Why is it supposedly bad for the environment? The environment goes on, regardless. But yeah, it's disgusting to look at. Disgusting that people are so thoughtless, that they can't be bothered to think of other people and use the proper trash receptacle, which at least in the U.S. seems to be located, most everywhere, so there is no excuse. But what's the alternative to all these bottles and food wrappers? Everybody producing their own food, like the poor peasants used to do? There wouldn't be much for jobs or to buy, if most everybody did that. I find disgusting broken beer bottles. People ought not to be drinking and driving, I don't drink alcohol because I don't want anything impairing my mind. And why would somebody want ash-tray breath, smoking those nasty cancer sticks, and then tossing them everywhere like the world is their ashtray? See? That's one of the ways I know that most "environmentalists" aren't for real, and are utter hypocrites, because if they really "cared" like they claim to, why don't they get into arguments with the "world is their ashtray" cigarette smokers? See? The grass or nature doesn't "care." Stuff grows most anywhere it can. Why waste more land for landfills? Gee, do you have a trash can? If more people somehow get to be born, will they also have trash cans? The cost of disposing of people's trash, is trivial compared to the huge immeasurable value of each and every person. Sure, if you can live a simpler and better life, buying less junk, and throwing less stuff away, why not?, but there's going to be more trash, one way or another. I hardly think that landfills are "nasty," if there's currently no better alternative. The "waste reprocessor" or whatever of Star Trek, doesn't seem to have been invented just yet. The invention of the "food replicator" also presumes the invention of the waste processor, as aren't they pretty much the flip sides of the same coin? So far, I have yet to see much use for reusable shopping bags. Would I line my trash can with them? Probably not. And at the shopping club, most everything is such big sizes, that no additional containers or bags are needed. Why do I need a bag, when that big box of cereal is pretty much an armful to carry already? That stuff can go straight from shopping cart to car. Why waste land on landfills? Why waste land on golf courses for rich elite yuppies to waste away the day and do little or nothing productive? Why waste the public airwaves, on stupid TV shows? Why waste? Good question, but some level of "wastes" are inevitable, with today's incomplete technologies. I think it rather disgusting that there would be messy condoms in the trash, because that's such a waste to try to prevent human lives, who would not want to have been prevented. I would much rather there be messy diapers in the trash, because it's well worth it for people's darling precious babies, that they should be encouraged to love and keep having. And so that people may go on having "all the children God gives them," well of course then I must also advocate the additional landfills that presumably all those people will eventually need, so as to keep their trash out of their own backyards, as they likely don't want to attract rodents or wild animals or insects. Even hamsters seem smart enough to go to the corner of their cage to relieve themselves, so that they can get as far away from their own natural wastes, as reasonably possible. Waste processing technology in the future, will likely but only get better, but it highly needs to also be affordable and practical for the populous masses. Here's a question. Which is more practical or smart? To soak my peanut butter and mayonaise containers in water in the sink, and risk clogging my drains, or hide it deep down in the trash sack, so that the "green?" trash man won't rudely second-guess the customers, and leave my trash in my recycling bin? Sure, I rinse out soda bottles, stuff easily water-dissolvable, but some stuff just isn't worth the bother, when I consider what the cost of plumbing repairs runs. Also, that question could relate as to whether it's smart to own a garbage disposal? Is it really worth putting all that garbage down the drain? I have yet to hear of a trash can "clogging up." That's yet another thing I hate about the green nazis. How dare they try to brand somebody a criminal, for failing to rinse out a mayonaise jar? Hey, I scrape them out about the best I can, as why should I want to be a corporate pawn, and re-buy more stuff than I have to? Before, people just threw everything away? Or maybe I should junk up my yard with "soaking" jars, so as to not clog the drains?
Well then, nature doesn't have a say, because it is people to whom God gave dominion over nature and other creatures. But don't leave a trash can "lonely." Pitch in the trash that it seeks. Duh?
Pronatalist.. im not even gona Bother with you. if you dont want to contribute to the world as this Thread is then DONT obviously we arnt trying to MAKE you. I guess you Answered my Initial question... who here IS participating in our Disposable world. thank u. You no longer have to Justify.
