10% of Dutch are Racist

Stereotyping is the way we all protect ourselves. Racism is an extreme version
and must be resisted by the individual.

 

1 in 10.....that's not bad at all. that's got to be one of the lowest in the world.

 

skip, you are completely on target with all of your comments. in your latest post you have expanded your scope beyond the dutch. i think that you will find that your scope can be expanded throughout the entire world. i encounter racist people everywhere. its a combination of fear and the way that the human brain operates by looking for patterns.

 

I can appreciate that reason skip. it is sad to see the dutch making the same mistakes that the usa has made. i think though its all about scope......this isn't an american thing or a dutch thing its a human being thing.

This quote just goes to show that this is a humanity, not a isolated country issue. Its what is known as Hegel's Master / Slave dialect.

Basically, what happens is that when masters and slaves enter into their relationship initially, it is pretty clear who has the dominate hand, the dominant part in the relationship: the master does. The master is the one who orders the slave about and can dispose of the slave. But a strange thing happens -- the longer that relationship between master and slave continues the more equal it becomes. Masters become dependent on their slaves. Slaves realize that masters have particular interests, habits, and likes and dislikes and soon make themselves a kind of space in which they can share power with their master. So, by using this famous example of a master-slave dialectic, Hegel is able to demonstrate how slavery evolves from a very unequal, an asymmetric relationship into much more equal and democratic ones. Slavery leads to the first notion of democracy; the concept of free individuals who negotiate with each other.



so its more that the dutch know that their liberated mindset and laws that made them such progressive people entailed lots of immigrants flooding into the netherlands. the dutch, like all others, couldn't help themselves from using the minorities / economic lower class to boost their own native middle and upper classes. but in doing so the netherlands has lost some of its authentic traditional purist dutch culture. the 10% resent that loss to the point that they misconstrue it into racism in my opinion.

 

not being funny, couldnt give a shit where anyone comes from, but maybe if immigrants (particularly muslims) attempted to integrate more when moving to a country the natives wouldn't be as suspicious.

 

so an orange burkah on queensday would fix all?

 

you do have a point in your posts... racism is everywhere though, there are just those who show it and those who don't...

But you have no right calling the dutch nazis... They were mutilated by the nazis for not giving in and kept fighting and dieing to go against the nazis... call them racist, but not nazis... If anything say radical nationalistic... I don't like the dutch more than any others, but don't call them nazis!

 

i agree with this point but in all fairness.......some gave in!

 

I found the Dutch to be quite candid about things,
and tended not to sugar coat their opinions.

Point being: 10% may be inaccurate, but more accurate than it would be in cultures where people don't want to offend others.

 

this scares me. my mother was born and raised in Holland , while my dad was born in the Carribean. I've been to both places and i feel strange everywhere (except my current home Berkeley, CA) but i am moving to Holland in a month and im terrified that I will be descriminated against... and you've just installed more fear in me. Do you think i'll be okay there?

 

The Dutch are just very blunt.You will be fine.I read somewhere they have more nationalities living in The Netherlands than any where else in the world.Enjoy yourself.

 

I can't imagine many countries having less then 10% be at least somewhat prejudiced.

 

There's actually a lot of racism in the world... and that's one area where North America is doing quite well for itself.

Actually, believe it or not, I think the least racist people in the world on whole must be white people in America, Canada, Australia and England... I guess because they so dread being thought of as racist whereas for everyone else it seems like a perfectly acceptable way to be.

 

No offense, but don't get ahead of yourself. The fact that a black candidate is actually running definitely means something... and to tell the truth, I think it's a very good thing. A black man now has an opportunity to become the most powerful person in the world... and just five years ago there were all kinds of people saying 'it would never happen'.

With something as huge as racial/cultural barriers, you can't think in terms of immediate, absolute solutions, you have to take things step by step. People are usually resistant to huge, sweeping changes... but are willing to accept small steps on their way to a complete change in outlook.

The Western media has been going to great lengths to offer portrayals of capable, intelligent minorities in positions of power, especially in the past few years... while there are always going to be negative stereotypes, it seems like there's a massive shift in Western society away from these things... and compared to a lot of other societies, America and Canada, etc. are a lot more critical of themselves when it comes to their racism, past misdeeds, etc... and a lot more willing to acknowledge that it exists, that it is a negative thing, and that it must be dealt with. In fact, one of the most positive aspects of western cultural influence globally is its openness to diversity, and its incorporation of multi-cultural elements.

You can see it mostly with the younger generations... their minds are much more open as our countries begin to grow increasingly diverse. This is a very very good thing.

I'm not saying that people in western countries aren't racist-- just that the western world seems further ahead than most other countries in getting outside of that mentality. On the other hand, racism is often expressed in different ways relative to the culture... and perhaps my background prevents me from recognizing that.

And as for the guy who said that certain immigrant should learn to 'integrate'... I agree with this, to an extent. When living in another country, one should take great care not to offend and learning to communicate and interact on a meaningful level is always a plus... but on the other hand, sacrificing one's heritage is not necessary. This means that everyone involved needs to make an effort to get along... not just the immigrants. North America is supposed to be 'the new world', where everyone can belong... not where everyone goes to learn how to be white.