get out and make a differnce

i'm prolly more polically aware then alot of people on this site.
serusily, dont waste your vote on nadar, you know he isnt guna win, and this is to much of an important issue to blow a vote on him. unless you want bush to win, cuz nadar is just taking away from voters that would then vote kerry. so if you want to get drafted which bush is trying to get back, then vote for nadar, but if you want bush the fuck outa there VOTE KERRY!!!

 

oh yay, a debate with an idiot.

You are later going to contradict yourself.....twice actually.

Nobody wastes their vote on anyone, unless they don't vote. It's more important to vote who you believe in than to vote to stay with the majority.

Contradiction #1: My dad(who's very Republican), and all his friends at the VFW that I've talked to(6 of them, all Republicans), are all voting for Nader for various reasons. In fact, an old USA Today poll(or maybe it was nytimes, forgot which one) said that the majority of Republican veterans do not support Bush. If you were so politically aware, you would've known this.

You fucking moron, Kerry wants to send over more troops than Bush wants to send over. The only way to get more troops than the U.S already has will have to be to reinstate the draft. The reason I call you a "fucking moron" is because John Kerry has stated many times that although he wants the U.S out of Iraq, but while Dubya only wants to send over 300,000 more troops over there, Kerry wants to send 400,000. Oh and this was your 2nd contradiction, incase you couldn't tell.

 

Applaudes

Just being anal here, but if you are so politically aware then why spell politically, wrong?
(Also probably, seriously and because. Oh yes, lets not forget the omiting of aphostophes* and the capital letters from politicans names, nice touch)

I have no time for smart asses, littering your statements with spelling and grammatical errors# will do you no favours.

* In case you are unaware, they look like this ' , and belong in words such as isn't.

#Totally understandable of course... in grade school.

 

Stop with the grammer bullshit.


There are clear differences between Kerry and Bush. Pay attention.
Like FunkyFreshmama said, you could fill a book.

This talk that Kerry is the same as Bush bullshit is Old old rhetoric from last years election, this is not the same. If you look at both there track records and web sites there are clear differences. Too me, Kerry comes off looking much less shady and Kerry's real estate fortune has nothing to do with Saudi Arabia, which is a refreshing change.

Nader is a joke, yes there would be real change and I would love to see it happen, but as a FACT, he split the vote last year in many key states, in those states had the votes that went to Nader gone to Gore, we wouldnt have this president right now. Nader cannot win an American Presidential election. Im sorry thats just the truth.

 

Face the facts - Kerry isn't the one kissing Saudi Arabia's ass.

Get it straight.

 

hell yeah...i always knew i liked you
kucinich is awesome

 

Bush had his chance and so did the other 17 Republishitheads prior to his arrival.


~ George

 

People listen more in debates if you can spell correctly. If you cant even spell what you are debating, then why the fuck are you debating?

Uh...what election last year?

I agree, but Kerry is a shady dude nonetheless.

This may be the truth, but I would still vote who I believe in. The things that concern me the most are the war in the Middle East and the Patriot Act(and possible draft), and Kerry looks pretty much the same as Bush in these areas. But I do like his stance on abortion, gay marriage, minimum wage, and most of the other internal problems that Bush won't touch. Kerry is better, but I doubt things will get much better even with him in office, seeing as he's funded by the same big wigs that Bushco is.

 

ok dude, what does me not being able to spell well have any thing to do about what we are talking about. and actually kerry is planing to pull troops out over a 5 year period. dude this exactly what i'm talking about, we are dividing over the canidates. and calling people dumbasses doesn't help out much.

 

ok dude, just because they are not voting republican, and your dads friends dont make up the whole vfw vote. doesn't mean that all of the vfw vote. ok i respect your opion for likng nadar, but be honest with your self, is he going to come any were close to winning?

 

You fucking idiot, there was a fucking USA Today or nytimes poll that dealt with old vets, and many of the ones who are republican said they would be voting for Nader because they obviously don't like what Dubya is doing. If you're going to debate, atleast read all of everything I said. And if you want me to, I'd gladly go look for that poll for you.

 

And on your last question, I dunno if he could win or not. Most likely not, but there's always a chance. He has the most support out of any Independent candidate in the history of presidential elections.

 

People listen more in debates if you can spell correctly. If you cant even spell what you are debating, then why the fuck are you debating? Your doing a good job of typing and your debate hasent gotten any stronger. I pretty sure cursing at people while trying to make a point wont strengthen your argument either. Neither will jumping down someones throat when they mistyped "hosbital" especially when the intended word is clear and the message is clear.

Uh...what election last year? Get over it, in context I was clearly talking about the last presidential election.

I agree, but Kerry is a shady dude nonetheless. Thats fine if you belive it, now wheres the facts? I know about the shadyness behind Bush and his service in the guard, and the shadyness with his family and the saudis.

This may be the truth, but I would still vote who I believe in. The things that concern me the most are the war in the Middle East and the Patriot Act(and possible draft), and Kerry looks pretty much the same as Bush in these areas. (yea the patriot act things sucked, especialy since alot of the senators have said they didnt even read it when they voted on it.)

But I do like his stance on abortion, gay marriage, minimum wage, and most of the other internal problems that Bush won't touch. Kerry is better, but I doubt things will get much better even with him in office, seeing as he's funded by the same big wigs that Bushco is. (He is no funded by the same big wigs that Bush is, there are different ones for Kerry, and most of them do not have to do with oil.)

 

And on your last question, I dunno if he could win or not. Most likely not, but there's always a chance. He has the most support out of any Independent candidate in the history of presidential elections.

He HAD the most support 4 years ago, this time he does not, he will never ever win this presidential election and him on the ballot in any state is detrimental to getting Bush out of office.

 

well as you said here "In fact, an old USA Today poll(or maybe it was nytimes, forgot which one) said that the majority of Republican veterans do not support Bush. If you were so politically aware, you would've known this."
were in this post does it say that they are guna vote nadar? so who's condtradicting themselves now. and dude you really need to chill out. no one else is gettin this bent up about the topic, cuz your making your self look like an asshole.

 

I didn't contradict myself, Republicans do not vote for democrats. Maybe you should learn the meaning of the word before trying to school me.


And Duckandmiss, one of the main supporter's of Kerry's campaign this year is Halliburton. Just thought you'd like to know.

 

ok what ever dude, for get about it. back to the origanl subject at hand before you started PMSing. we need to do all we caan to get bush out of office, and since nadar has no chance, we need to help kerry

 

I wasn't PMS'ing, I was debating. A debate which you couldn't come back with anything. And wasn't it you said that you were the most politically aware in this forum?

It's not like posting up fucking signs is going to change the mind of voters anyway. If you wanna get Bush out of office so bad, kill him.

 

You ahve to be kidding, I looked all day for an article detailing the support money for Kerry and I can not find links from Kerry to Halliburton? Would you like to provide some proof?

And why are you cursing? and calling people names? don't you know how to act civil?
"oh yay, a debate with an idiot."
"You fucking idiot, there was a fucking USA "

In your debate you havent actually proven anything, in fact everytime someone disproves one of your ideas with simple logic, you cling onto something else like grammer, or make another claim with nothing to back it up.

How pray tell to you think Nader would ever win? He wont even be on the ballot in certain states! thats a fact!

 

Here is the site that brought it to my attention: http://madison.indymedia.org/feature/display/18704/index.php. I have searched and searched and so far have only found this http://home.comcast.net/~allendt/wsb/html/view.cgi-html2.html--SiteID-1736618.html. I'm going to be looking for a more reliable source tho, since many right wingers and neocons dont like anything that doesn't end in ".com".

I have made a promise to myself that this is the last thread that I insult idiots during debates/arguements, but if that retard wants to keep going with me I'll be more than happy to call him the fuckhead that he appears to be.

You are lying, seeing as how I have not done that and I have yet to see any logic from him.

That is a fact, and he won't win, but there's always a chance. Well not really in this case, he started off by saying that Kerry is better than Bush in every way, and we went from there.