What does anyone know about these? 4-AcO-DMT isn't even on erowid. No word on effects of either. I really dont want to pour over tons of experience reports just to look for it.
well if you looked somewhat, i just made a post about it. i tried for the first time a week and a half ago. you can find it on wikipedia by the way. my thread: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234870 very much like shrooms, very euphoric, great body high, 30mgs - 50mgs will do you good, ingested orally. tastes like grapefruit peel.
^^ Id suggest starting lower than 30mg, probably around 15-20mg. Theres been some reports of "blackouts" on larger doses. Maybe not a bad thing, but it could be worrying if you wernt expecting it
From a 15mg dose, it's about a level 2.7 out of 6. Easily controllable, the experience feels pure, euphoric. Mushroom-like, hallucinations are beautiful. It lasted for me about 4 hours. It kicks in quick, literally I could feel effects minutes after dosing. During the comedown, I became sad. Few hours later everything was fine. I became happier once I integrated the trip into my psyche. I had a tendancy to focus on finding creative solutions to the issues at hand. As for these "blackouts", I have heard of them. I wouldn't be surprised.. I wonder how the brain functions in this mode. The reports always say everything turned out OK, even when they were tripping alone. My experiences with 5-MeO-DMT lead me to believe that blackouts can be dangerous. I simply don't remember much of the higher dose trips.
4-AcO-DMT can be a very powerful psychedelic and a wonderful, if somewhat stern, teacher. Watch your dose and start low. Do consider a sitter if you're not very experienced with psychedelics and sure you can talk yourself through a difficult trip. Probably my favorite tryptamine, altho I'm not sure I could tell it from 4-HO-MiPT in a blind test. Generally less nauseating and maybe less "wild" than shrooms.
There is supposedly a big difference between acos and hos. Especially in duration. MiPT is one of the more visual ones. 4-aco-dmt will degrade the slowest. 4-aco-dipt is usually the most sensual. The difference between set and setting will probably have a greater effect on your trip than the actual chemical in this case. Especially if you aren't very experienced with that type of tryptamine (the 4-blahblah ones) or shrooms.
i want 4-HO-DIPT. it seems like the best psychedelic for my current situation. anyone have a good vendor for it?