Why are Hindus such weak people?

The bava baghita Speaks of a holy war the jihad, but this war was supposed to be internal. The mastery of rational and overall appreciation. But like most other religions politics took over are reinacted the crusades, the incuisition, even the crucifiction. Its not just the hindus its eveen the americans. Politics creat war. the intent of religion is to realize ones existence and be grateful for such a maricle.

 

To me, Mahatma Gandhi, and his acts of passive resistance were some of the bravest acts anyone could ever do. It is a mistake to think that refusing to be violent is a weakness, it is quite the opposite. Giving in to the primitive urge to be violent is the weakness, and it requires great strength to remain passive while enduring physical, mental, and emotional abuse. Only love can defeat hate, and hatred is really only a product of fear. To resist violence is to overcome the fear of physical injury and death.
A Hindu parable I like is about a scorpion that fell into a stream, and was saved by a Hindu, who was then stung. Two more times, the scorpion fell in, was saved, and stung the guru. When an observer asked why he kept saving it, the guru replied, " It is in the scorpions nature to sting, and it is in the Hindus nature to help."
Here is another example of what I see as being great strength and courage.

There was a fierce warlord who ruled the countryside with ruthless violence, killing all who opposed him, and taking whatever he pleased wherever he went.
One of the villages heard he and his followers were ravaging the areas nearby and was headed for their village. The whole village grabbed what they could carry, and headed for the hills, fearing for their lives.
One monk, the most wise and elderly one, said he would stay behind in the temple. Everyone thought him crazy and that he would be killed for sure.
The warlord entered the village and soon found the sole remaining inhabitant, and was affronted by his audacity to have not fled.
He said to the monk, " Don't you know who I am. I am the man that could run you through with this sword without blinking an eye!"
The monk was not at all affected by this, and replied to him, " Don't you know who I am? I am the man that you could run through with your sword, and I would not blink an eye."
The warlord was so awed by this monk's response that he gave up his old ways and stayed as a student of the monk from then on.

 

This total absence from himsa is sanyasi dharma. A sanyasin is forbidden from committing violence even to protect himself. But you are applying this logic to all Hindus. A general Hindu is not supposed to brook torrential insult and oppression without a show of resistance.

Dont get into a false impression that sacrificing your life without resistance gives you moksha. It is actually called cowardice and forsaking Dharma. Ahimsa is very powerful - under the correct context. If you are going to wave the flag of peace to a terrorist who is pointing his AK47 at you, you will simply be mowed down.

Theory and practice are different. Bhagavad Gita is the classic example of when to use violence. Remember, Krishna did not applaud Arjuna from running away from the battle field. Arjuna was a kshtariya whose foremost duty is to establish dharma and if it needs killing, he has to do it. Hindus can resort to violence to establish dharma.

 

http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/moghal_atro.html

 

I know that you understand it is the US government of which I am critical, and not the American people in general.

 

The essence of Hinduism is Ahimsa but this does not mean that you sit around and do nothing when you are being killed or something wrong is being done to you.

The reason India was taken over by muslims was that it was divided into small nations. The reason India was taken over by the british was Indian Politics of that time, it had nothing to do with hinduism. Many Hindu kings killed alot of people as well and their killing had nothing to do with hinduism.

Mahatma Gandhi, who wanted to be a pure Hindu and "true Indian" is a good example of what hinduism really means. You do not fight when you do not have to, but when you do have to, you will.

If you are real true hindu, you do not fight for power, neither do you fight for your survival, you fight for righteousness. Righteousness= Dharma. You fight for your Dharma and it shall protect you always.

So Hinduism is not about forming a "group" of people who have certain beliefs and hold them and fight anyone who goes against them.

Hinduism is about giving internal strength to the individual, it is about self betterment and Righteousness.
Righteousness is God.

 

Oh I do...I was also refering to the government...I'm reading an autobiography of Thomas Jefferson...he would be so disgusted with our government now...

 

Not sure what a general Hindu is. I would think there are true Hindu's and superficial Hindu's.

In my opinion the beautiful story by BlackGuardXIII demonstrates a true Hindu,

What you post about Ladylocks has nothing to do with Hinduism. It's all about ego. It all about how you want things to be, not God's.

 

All this negative commentary throughout the various religious threads, is imho, just a great piece of supporting evidence that we are indeed in the last years of the Kali Yuga, the most depraved and base age of humanity. If this is true, then I am very comforted by the knowledge that this will soon be over, and the ages will change. This is what I think is the case, and I hope that the new age is as glorious as the Hindu texts describe it to be. The current age is certainly very accurately portrayed as being an extreme low point in humanity's timeline, and it is described excellently by the ancient authors.

Of course, many other ancients also point to this particular time as the time period wherein there will be an end of an age, and then a new beginning. Ie: The Mayans, Astrology, The Hopi, The Christians, etc.

 

Can you tell me where you have the info that kali yuga is nearing its end?
I've read that it has many thousands of years to run yet.

 

We are only ie beginning of the Kali Yuga in fact, there is still more than 200,000 years remaining before Kalki avatar and the return to the satya yuga. If you think things are bad now...

 

As for weakness, grass may not have the hard trunk of the coconut tree, but it weathers the storm, when mighties trees fall. Of all the ancient civilizations of the world, the Hindu civilization is the only one that still flourishes, with the possible exception of Japanese and Chinese, both of which are outdated by the Indus valley settlers.

Yes, India has been repeatedly invaded, but the invaders merged and became one with us, except the British, who were thrown out. The Mughal empire is not considered middle eastern, its association is with India only. They become one with us, we flourish and grow from it.

 

Hey as a Hindu I resent the original poster's comments. Hinduism is the oldest surviving religion of the world. It saw its golden age just like so many countless civilazations of the same era. Unlike Hinduism the other polytheistic religions just faded away

Even after hundreds of years of persecution by their muslim leaders the Hindus always survived never bowing down. This was accomplished without raising a single finger (even though there were many signifigant rebellions against the mogul empire). That is power.

Later on India lost a huge amount of land to the muslims after winning the peaceful rebellion against the british empire. But this didnt have anything to do with being a Hindu country. It was all politics. Gandhi was actually assinated by a right wing Hindu group because he decided to help the muslims build their own country.

hinduism will last forever my friends. It has survived longer than any other mind you. Its here to stay

 

My only problem with what you say is in referring to Hinduism as polytheistic, which it is not. It is the single most unifying vision of divinity anywhere, where the entire universe and all other universes that may exist, all creation, forms only a small part of God and that everything and everyone is imbued by that divinity, so we are all essentially one soul, one being. That is the essential idea behind Hinduism. It is neither polytheistic, nor impersonal, for what is more personal than your own self?

 

ladylocks is just ignorant, lets hope shes not a christian caus otherwise shed be showing off how much of a shit one she is.

anyway, to forgive isnt divine always, its only divine when you have the upper hand. if your stepped on by a higher power, then its -stronger- to go 'fuck you!' (while probably foolish too).

but the main issue is that these people are evidently peaceful.

you know what physical force and violence is? its what animals do. humans are animals afterall, but the further you move from violence and agression and caring about territory and stuff, the further you are from being an animal. it is the indian and asian religions that teach about true enlightenment and stuff so its highly understandable that hindus dont want to take part in physical combat and violence.

its primative

and i think its clearly the weaker option, relying on force and not our power as humans - our minds

so ladylock can go suck a cock for money on the roadside caus she cant stand being weak and living on the street, and the hindus can have their land taken, but, in their eyes, rise to a higher level and be clean of the sins that all the western cultures hypocrisise about.

 

Are you suggesting that hinduism is superior to other spiritual paths?

 

not at all. I firmly believe that other spiritual paths say the same thing and have the exact same vision, when correctly understood.

 

OK - that's great.

 

Most people who claim a religion don't follow it.

 

gandhi was a minor role in indian independence. The real drive behind independence was Bose and the indian naval strikes- armed resistance. Without them, gandhi would just continue with his protests for the rest of his life in failure, just like the dalai lama.

Exactly!

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