The promotion of meat eating and dairy consumption

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by gratefulvegan, Jul 9, 2006.

  1. bbbeccaaa

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    Yes I know, but when someone posts a quote like that, it tends to be because they believe it. I was saying that the quote is ignorant.

    And honestly, maybe you should go watch some videos of what actually happens to the animals you thoughtlessly put on your dinner plate. You might learn something.

    And anyone that says animals can't think for themselves or feel pain/pleasure, who are you to judge? If you can't see the fear in a cow's eye as he's being painfully slaughtered, or the pleasure a dog feels when you pet him, then you must be blind. I can say that each one of my 4 cats has a unique personality, and the same goes for any other creature. Animals don't deserve to die (especially cruelly) any more than we do. It's not a question of intelligence, but the value of all life.

    I'm not telling everyone to stop eating meat, I honestly don't care, but before you act like an asshole, educate yourself!
     
  2. SunrayDustShower

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    Okay dude, for real. Gratefulvegan is just expressing his viewpoint. Maybe some people need to step down and quit attacking people that have mortality and sympathy for animals. im not saying that eating meat is immoral because I eat meat. however, i think that dude has his opinion and I dont think he needs to be shot down for it. I hate what animals have to go though thats why when i eat meat i eat it sparingly and im grateful for what im eating. i dont gorge myself on hamburgers because they taste good, I eat steak for iron AND because it tastes good. chill out on the bitching man, doesn't get you anywhere.
     
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    I don't need to watch some propagandized video to see what happens the animals I put on my plate (notice I left out "thoughtlessly"). I've seen it first hand. I don't deny that an animal feels pain. However, when slaughtered properly, the time between infliction of pain and death is only a mere fraction of a second. But the animal doesn't know what is going to happen, what is happening, or what has just happened.

    The same thing happens when I shoot a deer with a rifle. If I do it right, it never knew what hit it. If I do it wrong, then it only knows up until I get the knife in its throat.
     
  4. bbbeccaaa

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    There's absolutely no way that you can prove what an animal is capable of thinking. For all we know, animals are more aware than us, and we're in no place to act like we're some godly species and they're the dirt on our shoes. You can't speak of what an animal knows unless you yourself are that animal.

    It doesn't bother me that you eat meat, but to act like animals are useless and to assume they're incapable of thinking is absurd and 'thoughtless'.
     
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    i like cheese
    sooo soooo much
     
  7. Bilby

    Bilby Lifetime Supporter and Freerangertarian Super Moderator

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    I still don't see any conspiracy as far as self-promotion or any other marketing campaigns. This is a normal part of business. Many businesses self-promote - and not just advertizing campaigns, but other marketing promotions such product placement. Notice in the latest James Bond films he drives a BMW?-
    I think you should look up "conspiracy" in the dictionary.
     
  8. prismatism

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    i'm just going to jump in and say...

    i hate when people who eat meat use the argument that fruits and vegetables can feel pain & such too, so we might as well not eat anything. cut open an apple... what is on the inside? seeds. they are there so that an animal will eat the apple, and shit out the seeds, and more apples will grow. when you eat a burger, do you shit out baby cows?

    if you say yes i will virtually bitchslap you for being a smartass :).
     
  9. Mary Poppins

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    I get tired of vegans and vegetarians trying to shove their choices down my throat!! I also certainly see no conspiracy on the part of any government to try to get us to eat meat and dairy!! I also agree that meat and diary is good for you, and that we as humans need it in our diet. I wish to god that the V and V's would leave us the hell alone!!!
     
  10. bbbeccaaa

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    Vegetarians and Vegans don't shove it in your face anymore than the people who eat meat shove it in our faces. I don't know how many times somedy has told me to eat some meat telling me it's good for me or how many times someone has made it obvious that what I eat/don't eat bothers them. I'd say your thoughts are shoved down OUR throats.
     
  11. prismatism

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    if you saw a little kid poking themselves in the eyes with a carrot repeatedly because they heard "carrots are good for the eyes", would you let them keep doing it?

    silly analogy but it works.
     
  12. omg im a govt spy lo

    omg im a govt spy lo Banned

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    No one gives a fuck you pussy. Eat meat!
     
  13. CrazybutLazy

    CrazybutLazy Banned

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    I don't like enough foods that don't contain meat to be come a vegetarian.
     
  14. omg im a govt spy lo

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    Yeah, not to mention becoming a vegetarian makes you gay, weak, stupid, weak again, and a bitch.
     
  15. lifelovefun

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    I'm not a Vegan, but the guy who started this thread is right on the money :) The government puts out the "Food Pyramid" and their buddies Milk and Meat are always there! Make sure you get your recommended daily amounts too or you'll get sick :eek:
     
  16. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    Thats a poor arguement.

    What did you eat for those four months?
     
  17. mortes

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    I love becca's argument "For all you know..."

    Yea for all we know animals are just food right? What a stupid argument.

    Meat tastes good (well some) and provides protein, calories, fats, and makes a smile. I'm so fucking sick of peta pushing vegans it isn't even funny.

    The Death argument is stupid as well. "They should die humanely Wah wah" Yea of course. In this ideal fantasy world where everything is perfect everyone would die "humanely" (there isn't such a thing just so you know, humane is a human word applied to something that occurs without human interference) we don't live in that world we live in this shitty one. Deal with it. If I tell you I raped your mother and tortured you for 5 hours and then shot you in the head vs just shooting you what's the difference? Other than me wasting my time, nothing. Same result, who cares. I will die one day and so will all of the tuna and sardines I will eat throughout my life.
     
  18. ~MorningManiacMusic~

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    Are you pissed off cause Lions,Bears and other animals eat meat?

    Put on the National Geographic channel and watch how the lions kill their prey...It's not pretty and I'm sure it is very painful for the water buffalo or whatever they are eating.

    Salads just don't fill me up..I have to eat meat.I love vegetables, but there is nothing like a good steak!


    If everybody in the world stopped eating meat the animals would still be eaten... By other animals!
     
  19. Nalencer

    Nalencer Dig Yourself

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    Eating meat is not so bad if you kill it yourself. If you hunt (preferably with a bow), shoot, and kill a deer, and eat it, that isn't too bad. But slaughterhouses are cruel, unnatural, and unhealthy for the person who ends up eating it. If you're eating a wild animal, chances are it will be healthy enough. Not so at all with factory farms. The meat you buy at the store is terrible for you. I'm a vegetarian myself, but if someone wants to hunt and kill their food, I don't have a huge problem with that.
     
  20. aspirine

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    The problem of rushing the carving up of steers for food has resulted in steers not only not being entirely dead while they are being carved up, but some times being conscious and looking at their death. Then there is the thing about half the antibotics in the usa being given to beef. Then thre is the thing about them feeding beef remains to beef. I still eat fowl and fish, but beef is out. I would move entirly to a meat free diet but I am diabetic.
    And yes there is a conspiricy by the producers and the feds. The feds helped a pizza chain develop a pizza with cheese in the doe edges so that people would eat more cheese.

    Cheese, Cow excretions.
     

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