I've never taken a powerful psychedelic before, and was wondering which would best prepare me for something more powerful (namely LSD). It'd have to last less than four hours. Any suggestions?
hmm i was gonna suggest dxm on the lower plateaus, or LSA(morning glory seeds)... but both of them tend to last longer than 4 hours... i dont know anything off hand less powerful than LSD that lasts shorter then four hours.. i know DMT and salvia do, but i think theyre usually concidered more harder trips than acid.. and DMT is supposed to be hard to get..
less than four hours, hmm... salvia, dmt? salvia you can try, most people are ignorant about it though, and the trip is far from lsd. maybe 2ce insufflated, that lasted me abou 3:30hrs. dmt i really would not recommend to someone who hasnt tripped ever.
2ce but its hard to acquire... i dont think you nescessarily need to prepare...i would just take a 1 hit dose then it'll be like warming yourself up 4 biigger doses
Just eat a couple grams of shrooms. You probably won't hallucinate much, if at all, but it'll still be fun.
I was thinking I'd try salvia, but it seems too unpredictable. Some say the trip is nothing, others say the exact opposite. My acidhead friend said it was too intense for his liking, so that firmly dissuaded me from taking it. I'll try to procure some 2ce... is that a common drug in (Albany) New York? It was difficult enough to get LSD. Thanks for your suggestions, in any case.
yeah it totally depends on the potency of the salvia.. x25 and your flat on your ass... but x5 people usualy say they dont trip much at all... i think it might just depend on the person to, like with alot psychedelics... and any drug really...
there is this new (well new to me) stuff that is called yellow horizan (not 100% sure) and supposeably it's a less intince salvia trip...but most say salvia is in a class of it's own (even though real time is 5-10min it can be days to years in your mind on trips if you go deep, yet to happen to me....)
Smoke a fuckload of weed... preferably a sativa or hash or (best of all) out a vaporizer. The CBN in indica will make you tired and will make it less psychedelic. You do not get CBN tolerance as fast as THC (psychedelic active chemical) tolerance... so quitting for a little bit before your toke fest may help. There is less CBN in sativa, and you should get very little CBN from a vaporizer. You can definitely trip pretty hard off of weed... and it's a space you should already be pretty familiar with at the lower end of the spectrum. Just make sure you smoke A LOT. Get a grinder and/or prepack bowls (joints work too) because it will get hard to pack bowls as you get really high. You'll still feel high after 4 hours, but you shouldn't (hopefully) be tripping still. Take into account how long it takes to smoke that much weed.
Shrooms will last a good 4-6 hrs for most people, and can be as intense as LSD, but qualitatively different. Inhaled vapors of freebase DMT, sometimes reffered to as the bussiness man's lunch trip, will last less than an hour and the intense part only 5-20 minutes. There are also RCs with durations of 2-4 hrs. See shulgins books.
Low doses of salvia will get you ready for the physical disorientation, and also start to introduce mental disorientation. It'll shift your perception gently if smoked in low enough doses but not send you off to someplace different. I think a few hits of 5x would be appropriate.
splitting a 8th with a friend would be allright, itd be a relativly mild trip for about 4 or 5 hours, also depends on how potent they are, but still id say a good 2-2.5g dose would be allright, you wont be so fucked up to the point of total confusion and youll still be able to talk and stuff, but youll still be feeling reallllly nice.
I don't think anything can prepare you for psychedelics, like anything great in life. It can be described forever and until you do it you don't have a clue.
Smoking good hash will get you tripping per se. Eating your weed after it's been properly treated can give you one hell of a bad ass trip. DMT and Salvia are definite no-no's for a first time. I had psychedelic experience the first time I smoked Salvia and the multiple times I tried it thereafter and was still freaked the fuck out. Nothing will really prepare you for Salvia, but having experience in heavier psychedelics would help. I'd say snorting research chemicals is a pretty bad idea as well. Good chance of serious complications If you want to try psychedelics, you need to have time to devote to them. Being worried about doing things later in the day or whatnot could negatively affect the trip.
I think plain salvia would be ok, just not an extract. lots of THC would also work, as would half an eigth of shrooms. 'tis really up to you.