Hi everyone, The disintergration of the O-zone layer and ongoing pollution is only partially to blame for Global Warming. From my own study (I wanted to show people the reasons behind global warming) I found that the Sun itself is getting hotter. Therefore Global Warming (which is usually only blamed on humans oppose to natural changes) is inevitable due to occuring natural change. Therefore we are only partially to blame ourselves and are now left with little to do about the it. I'm open to discussion about this as this is my own personel conclusion. x x x x x
Look more carefully into those theories about the sun. We are partly to blame, and therefore can take useful action.
The evidence states that due to the destruction of the ozone layer, increased Co2 is escaping, and the sun is producing greater heat; causing the global climate change.: SPACE.com -- Global Warming on Pluto Puzzles ScientistsPluto's atmospheric pressure has tripled over the past 14 years, indicating a stark temperature rise, the researchers said. Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist SaysSimultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent ... that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun. Sun Responsible for Global WarmingTwo new reports cast doubt on the manmade global warming theory and instead point to another cause for the recent warming of Earth changes in the sun. Cause for Global Warming/Hole in Ozone LayerIncreasing the amount of C02 in the atmosphere will increase the amount of reflected energy capture and lead to a temperature increase. Other planets are being affected by the earth's global warming, and this event could be attributed to other anomolies in space. While pondering the question of the universe, man's existence, technology, global warming, and development; I took the Faith vs. Science road. Along my journey I understood: They are one in the same. As we try and fail to keep up with the universe, we are reminded that the creator is infinate. How do we try to keep up with the creator? : Science. Man has made great strides in attempting to match God's will and keep up with the universe. Then what is taking the next step? Utilizing existing technology and expanding infrastructure? What do you do if you have five months of existence left on earth? Will you be ready to defend your planet from an apocalyptic disaster? Those are the questions of the future. Which deem the final question: Who will have the last word Man or the Universe? Everlasting Futuristic Science Fiction Novel Moon Over Key Biscayne booksandmore.4t.com :H
We should all party for 5 months, instead I feel there would be no time after that announcement before World War. How about self destruction? Widespread panic and ignorance, can you say "downtown new york on 9-11"? [qoute] Those are the questions of the future. Which deem the final question: Who will have the last word Man or the Universe? [/qoute] The last one to get shot... Lol. Maybe I'm too cynical, I just don't think the world can handle an apocolyptic deadline.
True, Clobal warming is not our fault, the Earth goes through cycles, right now we are in a hot cycle. Hopefully (soon) we will go through a colder cycle. I feel it is all natural changes, but I like the fact that everyone is trying to make the Earth a better place because of Global Warming.
Also, How do you explain that EVERY planet in our Solar System is warming up as much as we are. Is out greenhouse gasses escaping and going to everyother planet....I highly doubt it!
maybe the sun has some part to play in it. but we are also helping it along. do you honestly think we can continue to abuse the planet's resources and not have any consequences? i think all this shit baout it being fake or it being natural is just people who are to selfish to give up their luxories(sp?) even if you exclude global warming, we are still totally fucking are planet with poaching, over fishing, cutting down rainforests, trash, etc. we are like a virus to the planet. all we do it harm everything and its really sad
how do we know these polar ice caps are not melting because we forgot to replenish the ozone layer 15 years ago by launching those rockets up to the south pole with fresh ozone...or has everyone forgot. It may not be co2 induced global warming that will flood the world, but forgetfulness…
Haha, thats such bullshit. True, we are in a hot cycle, and yes, the Earth does go through cycles. Is it all natural changes? HAHAHA. Absolutely not. Anyone who has watched An Inconvienent Truth knows this, we are FAR, FAR above the Earths natural fluctuations. If you think that humans, dumping millions of tons of CO2 into our atmosphere has absolutely no effect on this planet, then you are an idiot. Our planet WAS NOT designed to accommodate humans and all their messy, enviromentally un-friendly ways. The debate on global warming is over. It is the truth. The debate is no longer 'does global warming exist?,' it is; 'what can we do to slow down global warming?' Global warming is happening and we ARE at fault. If we dont make SERIOUS efforts to curb our carbon emissions and slow down global warming, this planet faces a very dire future. I really wish people like you would stop spreading that kind of dis-information bullshit, which some people actually believe. The Bush administration tried it, and look where they ended up; scrambling to cover their asses 6 years later when the press uncovered a dis-information campaign to deny the existence of global warming. Dont make the same foolish mistake. If you cant understand that dumping unfathomable amounts of CO2 into our atmosphere every single day, has DISASTROUS effects on the planet, you are seriously a fucking moron. What we are doing now is basically 'Lets see how much shit we can toss at our planet and see how long it will last!' You're right; thats fucking BRILLIANT! You do realize this planet is all we have, don't you? If we fuck it up, we dont get another shot. This is it. I suggest anyone who is in doubt of our current climate crisis sit down and think long and hard about this. This is the future of PLANET EARTH? Is that not worth giving up SUV's and other pollutant-rich habits?
Well there are things you can do to help reduce the amount of harm you are causing the enviroment, you can do this by offsetting your carbon on websites such as; www.co2debt.com . On these sites you are able to prevent climate change by funding ethical reforestation projects. I personally found that www.co2debt.com was the best site for this because of their strong relationships with other non-profit organizations
Only 0.038% of our atmosphere is CO2 and only 3.4% of that is produced by mankind. You're telling me percentages that miniscule are more important than the temperature of the sun? a sun which for the last half-century has been warmer for longer than at any time in at least the past 11,400 years? Gore only used info that supports his claims and blatantly ignored the rest. That isn't science. Try doing some research outside the dvd before jumping to conclusions. Sea levels have been rising at a rate of 1.8 mm per year for the past 8000 years and there has been no significant acceleration in the rate of sea level rise during the 20th century. Carbon levels have been 16 times higher in the past. Even if greenhouse gas is as bad as he says it is livestock produce more of it than transportation does anyway. Do you seriously think over a billion people are going to walk away from their livelihoods (the majority of which are poor farmers in developing countries) for the sake of what could happen a couple of generations down the track? Are we to unite as vegetarians within the next ten to fifteen years years? pfft. Since when has destroying the environment ever been a problem for us anyway. you think now that its 'global warming' doing the damage we are going to change our ways? If you seriously believe this shit is real you're going to have to accept that we are screwed. [edit] (about ten or fifteen times) never post drunk [edit again] never try to make a point drunk
If all of you believe Gore's "Inconvenient Truth" film, then you should all be calling for an end to war, since the Pentagon and the war machine cause more man made pollution then anything the normal citizens contribute to in the normal course of their lives. We now not only have to live with higher petroleum based prices, but now with the push for ethanol, we will see our basic food commodity prices skyrocket.
The polar ice caps on Mars are also shrinking. http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/07aug_southpole.htm Kinda makes you wonder if this really is just a natural cycle of the solar system.
Tell the terrorists to stop making war. And of course, I tell as many people as I reasonably can, what a liar Al Gore is, not to mention what a hypocrite he is, for as I hear, living in a house that consumes 20 times the energy as the typical American home, and he flies around in his own private jet, pushing his stupid crock-umentary.
I think instead of being afraid of our cars wiping out the polar bears or insisting we all buy new expensive light bulbs, we should be asking our administration why they are funding the development of new nuclear weapons, and allowing foreign governments to develop weapons in New Mexico.
Uh, actually recent studies have found that all measures of solar activity have actually decreased since 1985. This *should* have caused cooling, but instead we saw the fastest rate of warming recorded in a very long time. In addition, on average the surface of the Earth is receiving 10% less sunlight than it did just 60 years ago due to particulate air pollution. That *should* have caused a decrease in world mean temp of 1.5 C. Instead we've had a 0.6 C increase, suggesting that manmade forcings on climate have been enough to cause just over 2.0 C of warming but have been offset by 1.5 C due to global dimming. Also, How do you explain that EVERY planet in our Solar System is warming up as much as we are. Is out greenhouse gasses escaping and going to everyother planet....I highly doubt it! Uh, yeah that's not true. There is some evidence that part of Mars may have recently experienced some warming, though the evidence doesn't suggest that this is a planetary phenomenon there. Pluto is experiencing warming in spite of the fact that it is moving away from the sun. The other planets are not experiencing warming (except Earth, of course ). Besides that, the suggestion that other planets are warming so we should expect Earth to be warming due to natural phenomenon relies on the assumption that solar output is driving the change. However, that's not possible since solar output has not increases since we started getting satellite measurments in 1978. Only 0.038% of our atmosphere is CO2 and only 3.4% of that is produced by mankind. You're telling me percentages that miniscule are more important than the temperature of the sun? a sun which for the last half-century has been warmer for longer than at any time in at least the past 11,400 years? Well, since the mean surface temperature of the Earth is + 15 C instead of - 18 C due to the presense of greenhouse gases, I'd suggest that they might be an important consideration for understanding climate Solar activity has not increased since we've had direct instrumental readings. We'd seen substantial warming during that period. Obviously the sun isn't the cause of the warming. Gore only used info that supports his claims and blatantly ignored the rest. That isn't science. Try doing some research outside the dvd before jumping to conclusions. Sea levels have been rising at a rate of 1.8 mm per year for the past 8000 years and there has been no significant acceleration in the rate of sea level rise during the 20th century. Yeah, that's not true. Sea levels are rising substantially faster than they did during the early part of last century. Carbon levels have been 16 times higher in the past. Yup, and the average temperature of the ocean was 99 F. Most of the land (above water) on the planet was characterized by extreme deserts that averaged up to 150 F during the day in the warm season. If that's the kind of world you want to live in (which would displace around half the world's human population due simply to sea level rise and kill most forms of life on the planet) then good luck to you. Even if greenhouse gas is as bad as he says it is livestock produce more of it than transportation does anyway. Do you seriously think over a billion people are going to walk away from their livelihoods (the majority of which are poor farmers in developing countries) for the sake of what could happen a couple of generations down the track? Are we to unite as vegetarians within the next ten to fifteen years years? pfft. Methane production can be curbed, and methane has a short residence time in the atmosphere relative to CO2. That is an issue that needs to be addressed, but the argument that since it will be hard to fix all the world's problems we shouldn't fix any of them just doesn't fly... Since when has destroying the environment ever been a problem for us anyway. you think now that its 'global warming' doing the damage we are going to change our ways? So you're advocating we do nothing then? We should just sit at home and wait to die, yes? If you seriously believe this shit is real you're going to have to accept that we are screwed. No, we're going to see problems, but we have the chance to minimize them. Hopefully we really get the job done, and there are a lot of reasons to be optimistic nowadays--attitudes on this really are changing. Chris
Amen to everything you just said. I love it when people actually fully research topics that they're agressively arguing about.
