The Next Cold War

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by Thornatos, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. Thornatos

    Thornatos Member

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    Okay, first off, lets just say that i know this isnt likely once Bush leaves office (whether impeached or on election day) So, many of you may have seen the Russian president Putnov(sp?) addressing the US people concerning our Presidents desire to keep the current war going. Russia is very upset at bush for this decision. I understand the the US has bombers in the atlantic that can get anywhere in seconds. Eitherway, the US is having a very hard time with Al quida. Russia, who is no longer a super power can see this. Whats stopping them from joining forces with Al quida, to take out America? They could fight Al quida themselves later to establish themselves as a true super power. Anyone think its possible? If we cant win a war with Al quida, how could we win a war against both Al quida and Russia?
     
  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    So you would like us to believe in a red menace once again? Fear of turbans isn't enough for you?
     
  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yeah, the Cold War was nothing but a psychological war... a war on the minds of the people.
     
  4. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I fear Al Queada as much as the President seems to fear Bin Laden. And I believe Russia has still so many financial problems to iron out, that the only way they could be seen as a threat if if our government wants to paint them that way.

    I see Bush and Cheney as a the biggest current cold war.
     
  5. mbworkrelated

    mbworkrelated Banned

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    Completly unlikely infact there is as much chance of the Loch ness monster being real or me going to the moon in the next couple of weeks. Russia and Al-Quaeda bedfellows ? - don't think so.
    In any case the relations with the US and Russia are not as ''cold'' as is being made out.
    It just sells more papers if the angle is ''The next cold war''.
    What is stopping them - is two very different agendas and Putin not being psychopathic maniac.
    Oh and apparently Al-quaeda is run by the CIA so it would all be a little odd dynamic.

    It is easier to fight a nation than it is a idea with its followers spread all over the globe.
     
  6. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    We aren't waging war against Al Queada, we are waging war against those that hold the world's richest oil reserves. Whoever they may be.

    Isreael would like us to wage out right war against all of Islam, but I don't think it's going to happen. Even though England/Brittain has agreed to back us for improved nuclear arms. They are busy developing new weapons on the US continent in New Mexico, who else would they follow?
     
  7. mbworkrelated

    mbworkrelated Banned

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    Rubbish

    When it comes to relations between Israel and the Muslim countries of the world and countries with a large population of muslims [such as pakistan] - not all is bad news. The majority of people and counries that appose the relations with muslim countries is because they wish Israel to be ''wiped of the map''.
     
  8. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Yeah Russia is angry that Iraq got wacked.


    Iraq owed Russia a lot of Debt. Iraq was a major customer of Rusia's arms industry and sales of nuclear plants were in the pipeline. Iraq also bought foodstuffs from Russia.

    So now that debt won't be collected and the loss is understandable.

    Russia and the radical Islamists hate each other because of Checyna.
    Somehow Russia seems too smart to take up with Al Queda. I mean Al Queda doesnt seem logical
     
  9. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Exactly, and one of the first things Bush did after invading Iraq was ask the countries owed money to excuse them. Ever wonder why Russia, Germany and France were made fun of at the beginning of the war...it's because Iraq owed them money they feared a war would disable their ability to pay...as it did, and our administration after defiling their reputations ask them to excuse their debts. Big of us wasn't it?
     
  10. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Triple bullshit. Just more media spin. The reason most muslim countries don't want to go along with this is because they are given no consideration in mediation. Pakistan harbors Bin Laden, why are they such great friends? I really trust Pakistan (not)...they just passed a law that let people like Bin Laden hide out in their border regions without any threat of apprehension.

    We send our special OPs troops into Iran, but we don't dare do that with Pakistan, why is that, what have they bought from us?
     
  11. mbworkrelated

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    Slow down all I said is that '' When it comes to relations between Israel and the Muslim countries of the world and countries with a large population of muslims [such as Pakistan] - not all is bad news. ''

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4203788.stm
    http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/memoranda/memo55.pdf

    What law - How do you know they do ?.

    It is a completly differing political paradigm.
    The ungoverned tribal areas of Pakistan have been a problem since coalition troops drove the Taliban and its ally - Osama bin Laden out of Afghanistan.
    It has nothing to do with financial arnagements - why does every road lead to that conclusion with you ?.
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Perhaps it wasn't a law, but it's official policy of the Pakistani military.

     
  13. Piney

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    Perhaps this is the background of Senator Obama Barak's recent statement about taking an active stance in looking for Bin Laden there ?
     
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