Help Me Out Here!

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by Thornatos, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. Thornatos

    Thornatos Member

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    so i packed a little less than a bowl of Salvia. (20x extract) I had some weed in the bottom of the bowl. First hit i took was unsuccessful, i held it but no smoke..so i lit it again and burned it all. the hit was harsh, and i coughed after about 4.7 seconds :) so i put the bowl down and was in a different world. it was similar to a different drug (nitrous) ,as i felt i was somewhere else but still knew where i was. i seen some children and a woman, when i tried reaching out to her, i noticed i was on my bed about to smash my hand into the wall. then it was over. i want to go deeper into the high, like be dancing around with the woman and children. what must be done to get deeper into the high? should i use more? somewhere else other than my bed or room? also, do you have to do anything to get far into the trip? i felt if i grabbed the womans hand i would enter another world, but i just came back to reality. should i play certain music to intensify trip? please no erowid links, just experienced users. TY
     
  2. Thornatos

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    Salvia also gave me a feeling that reminded me of my first shroom trip...only alot shorter :)
     
  3. Thornatos

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    Okay...not getting any help here....anyway i tried to smoke another bowl, but still cant get where i want..when i inhale, i hold the smoke for 25-30secs, than i just get pins and needles, and my legs (which are folded when i begin) just get slowly forced out till im laying flat on my back. im fully conscious, with eyes closed, and can sense salvia land, but cant get into it. After my legs get pulled all the way out, the "trip" is over...i no longer feel the pins and needles, but im also starting to come back to reality, and by that time, theres no way to bring the trip back with my mind. What am i doing wrong? anything at all would be helpful.
     
  4. Ynef

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    You have to find your own way to get there... and it doesn't come just like that. Smoke more and more and in time you will get there. And maybe you shouldn't expect to get there but just enjoy the trip as it is. (this helped me) Of course, maybe you need a little bit more salvia... try different ways. When i don't expect anything to happen and just let myself totally lose it will take me there on its own... maybe you should do the same. Maybe some parts of your mind are still holding you in the reality...
     
  5. -beatnick

    -beatnick Senior Member

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    bong+80x=you will definately find what youre looking for.
     
  6. Colimon

    Colimon Cheesus Christo

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    Use a bong, a good lighter and take multiple hits of 20x. Each hit should be held in for 10 seconds... At the second or third hit, place the bong down somewhere so you won't drop it. It is highly to have a trip sitter if you're going on a harder trip on Salvia. Good luck!
     
  7. Stiney

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    Alot of people have trouble getting a fully immersive expierience on salvia, I seem to have it down pretty good, just by trying different techniques. So far out of 7 of my friends that couldn't get much more than a strong body buzz, I've been able to stear 6 of them to full blown trips, the other one has no effect whatsoever when they smoke and I have no clue why.

    But anyway i'll tell you what I told the other 6, hope it helps. There were three main things I helped them with.

    1. First of all you need to smoke it right. There are tones of threads on here and online telling you the right way to smoke it, check them out. Basically keep the lighter flame on the salvia the entire time you are inhaling because it needs very high temperatures to release the active chemicals. You can use an ordinary lighter but despite what people say a windproof blowtorch flame style one works better, they burn hotter because they expel more gas quicker (thats how they get that blowtorch effect) and also the flame doesn't bend upwards as much as a normal lighter when you turn it sideways of face it down. Inhale the smoke deeply into the bottom of your lungs and hold it for as long as possible, if you can hold it for 60 seconds or more with out passing out then do, but around 30 seconds is good enough for most people. When you exhale let the smoke out as slow as possible don't just dump it out in one big blast. Thats smoking it.

    2. Second of all, before you smoke try to remove anything that may distract you. Turn the lights down low, turn your t.v and radio off, shut your windows to keep out any breeze or noise from outside. If you aren't comfortable doing it somewhere at a time when someone might walk in then don't, go somewhere you will not be interupted.

    3. Thirdly and most importantly, LET YOURSELF GO. You need to be able to let your mind wander, try to imagine the feeling you get just the moment before you go to sleep at night, that sense of relaxing your mind, of letting it go blank, thats the mindset you want just as you exhale. It helps most people to lie down on a couch or bed, but some prefer sitting up, whatever makes you most comfortable. Don't try to focus on the sensation or the trip, the harder you try to grasp it the quicker it will slip between your fingers, just let it wash over you and refrain from trying to control it or shape it or even interact with it, that will come naturally when you stop trying to do it.

    I hope this helps, it's a pity I can't be there in person because this might lose alot of clarity in transcription, but I hope it helps, let us know if you have any luck. I'm sure other people will post advice for you here too, listen to everyone and try different things people sugest untill you find what works for you. Good Luck, Stiney.
     
  8. Thornatos

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    Okay, first off, let me just express my thanks to everyone here who responded. Tonight im going to try a little more 20x than ive done before. maybe this will allow a greater experience. i have to use a regular bic lighter because, unfortunately, i have no torch lighters here that have fluid in them. Im going to try it in a pitch black room, with exception of my lava lamp :). My mom will be sleeping, so no one will walk in, even though she knows ill be smoking it im hoping the privacy will allow me to escape reality. Last couple times i used salvia i noticed the tv and music were holding me back, hopefully silence will change this. Wish me luck!
     
  9. in da snake

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    I also have problems going to salvia land...i normally feel a body buzz then feel like a smoked a ton of weed and it all fade in 30min or less.
     
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