Hey guys. This is a great site, I've been lurking here for a few days, but the time finally came to post. SWIM asked me to ask you: I've got a problem. I'm not a very experienced drug user, in particular I've never smoked anything, but I've had a lot of good experiences with taking Salvia D. sublingually (MG seeds too.) But as anyone who has ever tried to hold a fist sized wad of salvia leaves in their mouth for 30 minutes will tell you, it's not pleasant tasting at ALL. I've gotten to the point where I automatically gag upon seeing the leaves, so I figured the best alternative is to smoke. The problem is, I have no experience at all with smoking anything. I just tried smoking some of my non-extract dried leaves in a tobacco pipe (I have some 5x extrac too), and the smell and taste was so repulsive that I couldn't possibly hold it in my lungs and I nearly threw-up. What sort of technique should I use? I'm lost here. What do you think SWIM should do?
Boohoo! I feel sorry for you. OK, well a bong may be more filtered, but since you've never smoked anything before, it's a bad idea. The best way to train your lungs is smoke marijuana or small ammounts with a water filtration device! Also, you can use a vapourizor to smoke salvia, but they are kind of expensive. Hope the Lady welcomes you into her realm soon!
I would try smoking the 5x in the pipe...I've too tried smoking the leaf and found it to be very harsh on the lungs and not pleasant. Try some 5x but be sure you start off small and work your way up in amoung. Remember...you must hold the smoke for at least 20 seconds for the effects to come in. Good luck and be safe.
bake the salvia d in some brownies or other food u like or try smoking some flavored weed with the salvia
smoke a nick or dime of bud then you can smoke salvia...maybe even like it, i do =) but i can't smoke tobbaco way to harsh for me.....
I really don't think you need much experience to smoke anything. I highly suggest you make a bong. From my experience(salvia from Iamshaman.com), you barely even feel the smoke, quite smooth with a bong. Personally, I'd go for a smaller water bottle so you can easily use the bong with one hand. make a bong This is how to use it: Pack in a pinch or two of salvia in the bowl. I highly suggest the use of a butane lighter(not necessary though). Hold the bong and cover the choke(hole) while you light the salvia and suck in, keep the torch there the entire time you're sucking in. once there's enough smoke in the bottle(chamber) let go of the choke and let all the magical smoke enter your lungs. HOLD IT IN FOR A WHILE, this is essential with salvia, don't turn blue though. For me, I start to feel like i'm being pulled away by the time I go for the second hit, I go for the second, and then completely go to another dimension before i'm even done. Another good reason to have a spotter is so that he/she can take the bong away when you're not present in this dimension anymore. You might drop it and get your pants wet or something. Oh, and 6x from IAS is totally enough for me, people think that 10x isn't a lot.... BUT it can be a lot for you. I recommend you smoke the leaves in a bong for your first time lighting up. And if that doesn't send you out of this world, go for 5x(or 6) an hour or more later, and of course if that doesn't work go for the 10x. The last thing you want happening is having a bad trip on your first go that will completely put you off. Which can definitely happen if 10x is too much for YOUR body/mind. People should definitely not compare it to other drugs. Do not think you can handle a lot just because you've done a bunch of other drugs. I know too many people and have read way too many stories on bad trips because some idiot is taking 30x their first try. So work your way from the bottom and hope that 5x is enough for you, because then you'd be spending much less money each time! This is a long first post.... sorry guys.
Thanks for all the advice guys. Unfortunately I didn't check this topic until after I tried some of my 5x. Let me tell you the whole story: I was desperate for some kind of psychonautical voyage, so I decided to stick it out and do half of my remaining leaf supply sublingually. It was really awful and perhaps that put me in a bad mind state, because it didn't get me anywhere. Upset, I eyeballed half a bowl of 5x, and even though it still tasted awful I was able to manage it. Maybe I didn't keep it in my lungs long enough or just wasn't it the right mind-state, being already upset about the failure of the sublingual leaf, because it did nothing either. I was pretty upset about that too, but I'm going to try again as soon as I get a chance, and will be sure to keep you updated.
i say get a stronger extract.. with the 10x i just get a melting feeling, sounds are really distorted, speech is difficult, and a whole lot of laughter. but when i tried the 20x.. hard to explain man, you get sucked out of reality (i really felt as if i got sucked into another dimension).. i can imagine how some of the stronger extracts are.. good luck
You can extract it yourself with some Iso 99% do one dose at a time it is hard to split it up after and can be very strong and I have done 7 double hits of LSD( I do not recommend doing that ether stick to one or 2 it is a lot more pleasant and you can share more with friends).