What ruins perv. torch?

Discussion in 'Cacti Delecti' started by polecat, Jun 21, 2007.

  1. polecat

    polecat Weerd

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    A couple of days ago I sold thirty grams of peruvian torch to a friend of a friend. He took it yesturday and today he was mad because he said he got no effects. I need to know if I had a bad batch or if he could have ruined the cactus somehow.

    Here's the specifics:
    -30 grams of skin(not powdered)
    -He crushed the skin into small enough peices so he could put it into around 40 gel capsules(he described it as a chunky powder)
    -2 hours after consumption he said his stomach got violently ill with severe cramps and naseau, but he didn't puke.
    -He said he kept it in a cool unlit place in a air-tight baggie

    Now I'm sure everyone is asking,"Just take some yourself, you moron", and I am actually currently grinding some up to consume tonight, just bc this is bugging the hell out of me.

    I'm planning just to drink it using lemon juice and diet coke. But if it DOES work then I'd like to know how he could have ruined his stuff. My thought is that the it took the stomach a long time to digest the caps, and the unrefined powder causing the effects to sink in over such a long time he never felt anything.


    Well, thanks in advance for any replies.
     
  2. jbmac

    jbmac Member

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    The gel caps are not ideal - fine in small amounts - too many make a lump in your stomach. My swim munches chips - and chews them - they get absorbed quickly, and a soda pop to act as a chaser helps the medicine go down.
     
  3. ezyrider50

    ezyrider50 Member

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    the thin layer beneath the skin and above the white stuff is what will contain the most alkloids and less nasty stuff that will make you puke.
     
  4. jean_genie

    jean_genie psychedelic saturday

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    a mate of mine sold 60grams to another couple mates a week ago, they ate 30 grams each and neither of them had effects, yet the friend who sold it to them had the same stuff (from EDIT) a while before, and it had worked fine

    if anyone actually knows what ruins peruv. torch then plleease let us know lol

    it was most curious indeeeeed
     
  5. ancient powers

    ancient powers Member

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    Im gonna say that the method of induction used is what ruined the peruvian. plus the possibility of commercial bought peruvian. I got ripped once. Take the skin put them in a blender with 1 part lemon 2 part distilled water mix. Actually Premake the mix. Try using only as little liquid as possible to make the skins blend. Bring to a rapid boil then strain using a baking sifter into a large bowl. take the skin mush from the sifter and reboil 2 more times using only enough lemon water to barely cover the mush. Each time you should have only to use less. Mix all three boils together and put inot a 12oz water bottle. You shoul have 4 - n6 oz of liquid to work with. At this point you can A. either let the solution cool and slam it in a 12oz water bottle chasing it with V8 and or mixing it in the V8. B. slowly evaporate the liquid and drying the left over solids capsulizing those. The Evaportion time is about 45 min. A friend of mine that frequents this site is going to post IPA instructions supposedly that may work even better but for now simple kitchen chemistry 4 ya folks.
     
  6. strawpurchase

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    was the skin dried? andnif so was it light or dark dried? ive read claims that dark drying is best. the other thing to remember is that every cactus is different, with a drastic 600% variation in possible potency:
    300 milligrams mescaline/ 15-100 grams peruvian torch. this variation is often from plant to plant at the same farm with the same conditions.
     
  7. polecat

    polecat Weerd

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    hmm, I bought the skin pre-dried so I have no idea if it was dark/light dried. On the other hand, I took a moderate dose of around 15 grams and had a very nice, albeit light, trip, so the stuff does work. But another person also bitched that it didn't work, so I now plan to do an extraction of around 6 pounds of material. Fun fun fun....
     

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