The world is a violent place. Unless you are willing to fight or willing to let others fight for you, you will have to learn to live with less.
I'm not sure what you mean. Hypothetically speaking, if I beat some up and take their stuff, I will most likely be arrested and incarcerated for assault and robbery. Then I would definitely have less stuff in jail. That doesn't sound like a good idea, imo.
SafetyPin, I catch your drift. Unfortunately, our population is so large that many (but not all) people have to be dependent on technology for some things, such as purifying water, heating their home, etc. Those that desire can find ways to live more naturally, and "with less".
dd3stp233 Your talking about fighting on the wrong side of the law, or convention at any rate. What I'm talking about is for instance: America is fighting/beating the crap out of the Iraqis. Meanwhile no one in America even considers giving up their cars or even sacrificing one minute of their driving time so we won't need the oil that goes into making the gas that fuels our automobiles. Americans send out their soldiers to do their fighting for them so they don't have to sacrifice one minute of their driving time and thus their goddamn comfort. If we could learn to live with less, like for example, without our cars so we wouldn't need Iraqs oil, we wouldn't even have to fight there in the first place. Then again, on the other side of the coin, if we want to continue to drive our cars and maintain our present standard of living and comfort we are going to have to have the oil in Iraq, and I guess we will have to keep fighting. Please don't anyone say that we're fighting the Iraqis to spread democracy. You can't kill people to convince them that your political system is (good?).
Hypothetically, the Americans are beating up the Iraqis and trying to take their stuff/oil, and we are not being arrested or incarcerated for assault and robbery and winding up in jail with less stuff. Can you see what I'm trying to say?
When there is not enough of something for all of us to be comfortable, whether it is oil or technology, do we fight to get what we need for ourselves or do we share it and learn to live with less, so others can have something too.
SafetyPin you make perfect sense to me. Though the ecological impact of our consumption patterns is real, rarely does anyone make a connection between conflict and over-consumption. Thank-you.
sorry to get off topic. First off, I don't agree with the war in Iraq at all and am anti-militarian. The war in Iraq is NOT about oil. Oil is great, and yeah, we're going to use it. But lots of places have oil and oil potential. The point of the war in Iraq is to have a new market to buy and sell pieces of the country to corporations that have political people as share holders or members of boards. IE: Halliburton. While Halliburton has interest in oil, you can bet there are PLENTY of other goods and services to be marketed, sold, and taken. The point is NOT the oil itself, but the money that can be generated by ANY company that is in prime position to enter the injured nation. the oil war thing is great for the government though, because it is something that people who are against the war can rally behind without having to piece much together and averts peoples eyes from what's really going down. If you think we're in this fucked up situation because we just need oil you are unfortunately very short sighted. Its a political move for power and control in one of the most VIOLENT areas of the world. Giving us instant access to all kinds of weapons, cartels, and puts us within striking range of lots of surrounding nations... IRAN anyone? This is why we aren't going to war with North Korea, who actually has weapons, because war right now is not about defense it's about profitability, no one in North Korea wants ANYTHING from us, so what's the point? end rant. Yeah, the whole world is where it is because we are always in a constant quest to do thing easier and make things more convenient so we have more time to do other things (LIKE WORK AND FEED THE GLOBAL ECONOMY). We should really all just live in little societies in the woods, too bad that won't happen unless there is GIANT economic collapse, a global natural disaster, or WW3 frying the majority of us.
